The problem with CoPilot+ is that it was negative value on a PC because of the way Microsoft entrenched the related (system) services into Windows. I got a mid range laptop (Core Ultra 7, 16GB RAM, integrate Arc GPU) that I would consider ideal in terms of build quality, specs, etc..
That is until Microsoft’s bloatware starts using a ton of RAM and CPU. Something like 10% CPU use doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s massive on a laptop because it destroys the battery life. And all it’s doing is running things I don’t want that consume RAM. I’m talking 16GB of RAM 50% used up by Microsoft bloatware.
Microsoft doesn’t think, or care, about PC users anymore. Everything they’re doing with Windows makes your PC consume more resources with the goal of trapping you into another pay forever service.
They didn’t even make the CoPilot+ stuff “not suck” before abandoning it. Now it’s just another crappy Windows service gunking up your PC. Vendors should have never agreed to it and IMO the degradation it causes is enough that most of the PCs with it fall into the range of false advertising. I can’t imagine anyone’s battery claims are taking the CoPilot+ trash in Windows into account.
I don’t think so. I haven’t tried it personally, but claims online say it’s part of Windows 11. There are hacks to get rid of it, but supposedly Microsoft is really aggressive about having it running.
The laptop was for a younger person that’s fairly tech-savvy, so it’ll work out. I’d never buy one for my parents now that I know what to watch out for.
I'm still so mad about Intel and AMD and Microsoft colluding together to remove sleep mode.
Horrible for battery life, unfixable, but Microsoft says they need to be able to wake up your laptop every hour.
They just sheepishly copied apple... with the single difference, that theirs is an open platform, where anybody can be a negligent actor, and they also don't put as much focus on the polish. Apple having a single vertically integrated ecosystem, with a narrow set of devices to support can and wills to do this properly. Sleep took 2 decades to become reliable over the fragmented PC ecosystem, so it was pretty much a mature, but dated technology. We have only 15 more until S0 sleep will get sorted out.
Or MS, Intel, AMD could apply pressure on vendors who fuck this up, including themselves, but their stuff is bought even so.
I'll also never buy a Mac again after having been tricked by the mass opinion and forced to work on that hellscape of a UX... while MS works hard to f...up windows it is still way better in most respects. Though they keep copying bad ideas from Mac, and this "modern sleep" is one of those also. But Windows has fractional screen scaling, sane keyboard shortcuts, all UI usable with keyboard, all windows can be accessed purely with keyboard. Built in tiling window manager. Machines with trackpoint... the famously good mac palm rejection is still crap, just slightly better than Synaptics... Oh. and Linux Support. Built into Windows, so the half-assed "UNIX" Apple ships is no longer missing. It is just different enough from Linux and NetBSD to always hurt when I use it anything more arcane then just "npm install", which is the main usecase for it according to the fanboys. Also I can put Linux on an oldish machine not supported by Windows 11 and still use it, with all its features.
Back to the topic: who wouldn't want always-on telemetry? :D
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That is until Microsoft’s bloatware starts using a ton of RAM and CPU. Something like 10% CPU use doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s massive on a laptop because it destroys the battery life. And all it’s doing is running things I don’t want that consume RAM. I’m talking 16GB of RAM 50% used up by Microsoft bloatware.
Microsoft doesn’t think, or care, about PC users anymore. Everything they’re doing with Windows makes your PC consume more resources with the goal of trapping you into another pay forever service.
They didn’t even make the CoPilot+ stuff “not suck” before abandoning it. Now it’s just another crappy Windows service gunking up your PC. Vendors should have never agreed to it and IMO the degradation it causes is enough that most of the PCs with it fall into the range of false advertising. I can’t imagine anyone’s battery claims are taking the CoPilot+ trash in Windows into account.
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donmcronald · · focus · HN ↗
The laptop was for a younger person that’s fairly tech-savvy, so it’ll work out. I’d never buy one for my parents now that I know what to watch out for.
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Or MS, Intel, AMD could apply pressure on vendors who fuck this up, including themselves, but their stuff is bought even so.
I'll also never buy a Mac again after having been tricked by the mass opinion and forced to work on that hellscape of a UX... while MS works hard to f...up windows it is still way better in most respects. Though they keep copying bad ideas from Mac, and this "modern sleep" is one of those also. But Windows has fractional screen scaling, sane keyboard shortcuts, all UI usable with keyboard, all windows can be accessed purely with keyboard. Built in tiling window manager. Machines with trackpoint... the famously good mac palm rejection is still crap, just slightly better than Synaptics... Oh. and Linux Support. Built into Windows, so the half-assed "UNIX" Apple ships is no longer missing. It is just different enough from Linux and NetBSD to always hurt when I use it anything more arcane then just "npm install", which is the main usecase for it according to the fanboys. Also I can put Linux on an oldish machine not supported by Windows 11 and still use it, with all its features.
Back to the topic: who wouldn't want always-on telemetry? :D