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The Copilot+ PC brand is dead

122 points · 115 comments · bj-rn

  1. throwa356262 · · focus · HN ↗
    The sad part of this is that all those powerful NPUs are basically paperweight.

    35-50 low power TOPS taking 1/5 of the die area and not being used by anyone...

    1. bfrog · · focus · HN ↗
      These things are a waste of sand.

      Could’ve added more gpu or cpu or cache and people would’ve been happier.

      1. Cyan488 · · focus · HN ↗
        When these came out, I thought, what is the average PC user going to get out of this? Faster image touchups, and...? You can't run an LLM chatbot of any comparison to free cloud models.

        Oh yeah, and Recall. That worked out well.

        1. ihsw · · focus · HN ↗

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        2. bfrog · · focus · HN ↗
          Yep… massive waste. A dsp coprocessor hobbled by npu workflows.
      2. Marsymars · · focus · HN ↗
        > Could’ve added more gpu or cpu or cache and people would’ve been happier.

        I actually wonder about this - my regular dev workstation is a Qualcomm ARM laptop - by-and-large my bottleneck for CPU-bound tasks is thermal. Would adding more CPU or cache instead of the NPU help with performance/watt?

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