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How to keep enjoying programming in a world of LLMs

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  1. matsemann · · focus · HN ↗
    I don't mind using an LLM while programming. At least the way I use it, I still feel like my experience, knowledge and taste is being utilized to make it better than if I were to vibe it.

    What has made me enjoy it less, is having to deal with colleagues' use of it. Sorry to say, but I don't enjoy talking to meat proxies, or getting huge PRs that solve the wrong problem. It's like half the people have turned off their brain. We produce faster, but we don't produce the right stuff.

    1. na1026 · · focus · HN ↗
      > It's like half the people have turned off their brain.

      LLMs are for people who want to turn off their brain. If you want your team to improve, you should lead by example and stop using LLMs. You need to create an environment where it is unacceptable to turn off your brain. Your underlings will never use LLM tools the way you want them to. LLM tools are designed to be used the way your underlings use them.

      1. bitwize · · focus · HN ↗
        The CEO vibe-coded an app last week and shat it out onto Railway, contravening the company's security, testing, and CI/CD practices. As far as he is concerned, that is proof that LLMs are a massive productivity booster, and as such must be used by every employee in the company. An agentic workflow which is to be accepted as standard and used for all future development companywide is forthcoming from upper management. Keep an eye on your calendar for the meeting explaining it.

        P.S.: An employee discovered, five minutes after deployment, that click events are not properly handled in one of the app's buttons, leading to visual and behavioral glitches.

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