‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

407 points · 504 comments · srcreigh

  1. metalspot · · focus · HN ↗
    There is a failure to understand that the process is the result. You don't study mathematics or computer science and information theory to produce commodities. You study them to transform your mind. The output of an LLM is useless without a human mind to comprehend it. We can have Super Intelligence, but if humans are incapable of comprehending it, it is just another useless dead artifact. Practice, applied over a lifetime, is what creates the capability for comprehension. Asking an LLM to give you an answer creates an artifact. Humans being humans, most of their requests boil down to "make me rich without having to work for it," so the request itself is paradoxical and impossible to satisfy. Philosophers have only been saying this for all of human history, so don't hold your breath for any breakthroughs.
    1. adverbly · · focus · HN ↗
      > the process is the result.

      For who though?

      Is it important that each person understand it on their own?

      Why does it impact me if another human understands something or not?

      It impacts me right now because that human can use that knowledge to explain things to me or to build new things using that knowledge.

      But if an AI can explain and build better, then what good does it do having the other human know the thing?

      Understanding might have intrinsic value to me, but intrinsic value to me doesn't pay the bills.

      What am I missing here? I kinda expected better from Terrance given such an audacious title.

      1. neom · · focus · HN ↗
        Expertise changes perception, not just knowledge.

        I have dyscalculia so the math world is dead to me, I can't even add 2 numbers together in my head, but I've read here on HN many times over the years people describe some version of new maths frameworks tangibly changing how they view the world. For me, I went to film school - I have a natural ability to think in movies and pictures, memory is very visual for me, before film school I had a good sense of shape, colour, light. After film school and to this day some 20 plus years later, I mostly look at the world starting with the shadows. Russian speakers, whose language has separate basic words for light blue and dark blue, are slightly faster at telling those shades apart. Speakers of languages that use compass directions instead of "left/right" appear to develop a strong, constant sense of orientation.

        These things can only happen through the process, so for who? For people who want to live richer lives, want to think differently, and for you, to be around people who have such.

Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.