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We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

407 points · 504 comments · srcreigh

  1. metalspot · · focus · HN ↗
    There is a failure to understand that the process is the result. You don't study mathematics or computer science and information theory to produce commodities. You study them to transform your mind. The output of an LLM is useless without a human mind to comprehend it. We can have Super Intelligence, but if humans are incapable of comprehending it, it is just another useless dead artifact. Practice, applied over a lifetime, is what creates the capability for comprehension. Asking an LLM to give you an answer creates an artifact. Humans being humans, most of their requests boil down to "make me rich without having to work for it," so the request itself is paradoxical and impossible to satisfy. Philosophers have only been saying this for all of human history, so don't hold your breath for any breakthroughs.
    1. gjskngnf · · focus · HN ↗
      > The output of an LLM is useless without a human mind to comprehend it.

      I don’t understand mRNA vaccines, but they are useful to me. The output of an LLM could at least in theory be the design to a major technological advancement, and its implementation with automatic tooling. We don’t have to understand that for it to be useful.

      1. metalspot · · focus · HN ↗
        mRNA vaccines were created by humans who understood them. You exist within a society (a networked distributed information system) where you accept the judgement of the humans who understand and create this things, which is how you end up benefiting without personally understanding.

        If we imagine Super Intelligence, where NO human is capable of understanding, then how would it ever be possible for any human to identify what is actually beneficial or not?

        This resolves in a paradox, common to all magical thinking. You can certainly wish that some all powerful benevolent entity will solve all of your problems for you, but it is not likely to work out well.

        None of this is new. It is the same delusions as alchemy and the same thing that tales about genies warn of.

        1. throw93038383 · · focus · HN ↗
          > mRNA vaccines were created by humans who understood them

          If authors understood them, why most of their predictions were wrong? Time to decompose spike proteins, side effects, distribution through brrast milk....

          Event the most basic promise 100% protection against infection was wrong! They lied and we allowed infected people into hospitals!

          1. pfdietz · · focus · HN ↗
            > why most of their predictions were wrong?

            Citation needed.

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