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We're gonna need a lot more mathematicians

407 points · 504 comments · srcreigh

  1. metalspot · · focus · HN ↗
    There is a failure to understand that the process is the result. You don't study mathematics or computer science and information theory to produce commodities. You study them to transform your mind. The output of an LLM is useless without a human mind to comprehend it. We can have Super Intelligence, but if humans are incapable of comprehending it, it is just another useless dead artifact. Practice, applied over a lifetime, is what creates the capability for comprehension. Asking an LLM to give you an answer creates an artifact. Humans being humans, most of their requests boil down to "make me rich without having to work for it," so the request itself is paradoxical and impossible to satisfy. Philosophers have only been saying this for all of human history, so don't hold your breath for any breakthroughs.
    1. echelon · · focus · HN ↗
      > You don't study mathematics or computer science and information theory to produce commodities. You study them to transform your mind.

      That's nonsense. Of course you study them to meet demand.

      1. bsoqk · · focus · HN ↗
        People who study STEM for the enrichment of their intellect are privileged. Most of us had to study STEM (or whatever else) because we had bills to pay.
        1. r_lee · · focus · HN ↗
          I feel like so many people here are part of that crowd. going on about how it's like humanities and how it's super valuable and those who are seeking to get paid are just missing the point

          how is it even possible to think like that? or maybe it's some kind of coping mechanism

          1. danny_codes · · focus · HN ↗
            Lots of people don't need to work, or are relatively insulated such that they have the "leisure capacity" to study for personal fulfillment.

            Remember, the top 1% of households have $12M+ in assets. That's over a million households for whom work is somewhat or completely optional for them and their children. They can live a good quality life off capital returns without any hardship.

            This logic still holds down the wealth gradient. Households at the 95th percentile still have to work, but the need is more flexible. The buffer of need could be years long.

            So you have millions of people who genuinely don't need to worry about getting paid that much.

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