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1. ElProlactin · 1790389002 · focus · HN ↗

   > Meta agreed in August to pay up to $18 billion to settle the multistate lawsuit surrounding child safety issues. Buried in the 130-page settlement was an agreement to release Meta from future liability related to the Cambridge Analytica privacy breach, making New Mexico the only state to pursue a case. Florida was the only other state that did not sign the settlement, saying it was not tough enough on Meta.

   This is an inconvenient reminder for people who want more "regulation" and who believe states with high levels of paper regulation like California really care about protecting consumers.

   Years down the line, you'll find that a bunch of the people who worked on these cases have cush jobs working on the other side.

   1. noisy_boy · 1790417762 · focus · HN ↗

      How is this:

      > people who want more "regulation"

      Same as this:

      > who believe states with high levels of paper regulation

      I _do_ want real regulations with teeth against shitty companies like Meta. Just because California has done a performative take doesn't make expecting more controls on these scumbags a wrong thing to expect. Bad execution doesn't make the idea wrong, your scare-quotes be damned.

      1. JumpCrisscross · 1790418008 · focus · HN ↗

         > Bad execution doesn't make the idea wrong

         It does raise the question of the value of California’s bureaucratic burden.

         1. Matl · 1790418757 · focus · HN ↗

            This is the Ayn Rand trick; let's make government not work == government can never work well == let's cut all customer protections and end up with unfit for consumption beef and glass in your food == somehow it's still not the fault of the free market since after enough people get sick I guess they'll leave one star reviews on Google from their hospital beds == companies will self regulate to produce healthier food?

            1. GoblinSlayer · 1790425640 · focus · HN ↗

               let's make capitalism == everything is for sale == let's buy government == let's make government work for the buyer == government works well ==...
            2. JumpCrisscross · 1790426232 · focus · HN ↗

               Bloat is real. One can simplify an organization while making it more effective. California broadly seems to be in the overcomplicated/ineffective quadrant.

               1. Matl · 1790427230 · focus · HN ↗

                  Bloat is real. The point is if there's a regulation that should stop glass contamination in food and it doesn't then the answer isn't 'too much red tape, see?'.

                  It's that there's clearly been industry capture and the regulations no longer work. It doesn't mean the regulations themselves are automatically the problem.

                  It also doesn't mean every regulation is good or should exist, but that's not an argument I see anyone actually making. Only some people like to pretend like someone is making that argument, because the actual argument is harder to argue against.

               2. downut · 1790437882 · focus · HN ↗

                  "... seems to be ..."

                  Compared to what? Your string of comments are banal generalities that may or may not apply to this particular situation. Where else in this world at this time, is this particular governmental failing handled materially better?

                  Singapore? China? Russia? Switzerland? England?

                  I have sometimes learned interesting things from you (as a commenter) but there is nothing to learn here. It appears to be only diversion and distraction.

               3. brookst · 1790438437 · focus · HN ↗

                  Perhaps. But you’d be more persuasive if you proposed ways to achieve the same or more effective controls over corporate abuses, just more efficiently. Instead you come across as a baby/bathwater proponent.

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