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One Piece of Flock Camera Data Put This Innocent Woman in Jail for 13 Days

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  1. freddealmeida · · focus · HN ↗
    Flock did not put the woman in jail. The police and DA put her in Jail. This is not a failure of the technology (do they have confidence levels?). This is a failure of how police are outsourcing their reasoning and decision making to an AI camera service that seems to fail at the tail.
    1. latexr · · focus · HN ↗
      While you are technically correct (which we all know from Futurama is “the best kind”), that is neither helpful nor consolation to the affected, and I wish these kinds of comments didn’t dominate the top spot in HN discussions. They’re the “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” of tech.

      Yes, the system is broken even before we get to Flock (or whatever tech) but Flock makes it worse. If a bad tool is badly used to cause harm, it’s fair to criticise its existence. You can’t fix police abuse with a snap of the finger, so you need to start but taking away the tools which facilitate it.

      If it were your ass which had been thrown in solitary, would you be pleading with your lawyer to “go easy on Flock. Sure, they allowed a major disruption and trauma into my life, but they’re just a tool”?

      1. Buttons840 · · focus · HN ↗
        The people who say there are problems with Flock are perceived as excusing the human police officers.

        The people who say there are problems with the human police officers are perceived as excusing Flock.

        Who is responsible for the area inside a square, the width or the height? It is not an additive relationship.

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