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What even is an OS now?

310 points · 479 comments · fratellobigio

  1. meredithbloom · · focus · HN ↗
    > "But it booted straight into BASIC. That’s all it did. I was, like, 8 years old. I wasn’t about to learn BASIC. What I learned instead: computers were not as awesome as I’d imagined."

    You were the exception. Most kids felt awe. We started learning BASIC and creating "dumb games". That's the origin story of most people my age who ended up in this doomed industry.

    1. sublinear · · focus · HN ↗
      Nice attempt at slipping one past, but the industry is far from doomed. Where do you work now that you believe that?
      1. echelon · · focus · HN ↗
        Holdouts feel everything is doomed.

        Adopters feel the future is brighter than ever.

        Article author is excited. I am too.

        1. bigstrat2003 · · focus · HN ↗
          There's nothing to be excited for. Even if AI works as well as people say (and to be clear: it very much doesn't), that future sucks ass. No more fun making things, no fun solving problems, just hand it off to the machine that does things for you. That's an awful future where every shred of joy is gone from computing.
          1. tptacek · · focus · HN ↗
            It might genuinely suck for you. It's amazing for people who couldn't build anything before, but now can. And there's more of them than you.
            1. dctoedt · · focus · HN ↗
              > It's amazing for people who couldn't build anything before, but now can.

              (Raises hand.) I'm doing things with my online law-school course materials, in just a few minutes using Claude, that I never even considered doing before because I didn't want to take the time to improve my rudimentary JavaScript- and CSS skills. Instead of just a fairly-simple, single-page HTML document, Claude is helping me turn the materials into something genuinely useful for both my students and practitioners.

              1. tptacek · · focus · HN ↗
                Yes. I have a really hard time getting past the sheer scale of enablement for normal people, and we're stacking it up against, what, the joy professional developers get out of hand-cutting dovetail keys? And then like a whole cinematic universe about how if all the joinery isn't hand-cut, everything's going to collapse, which, like, obviously no.

                One of my favorite journalists is Jerusalem Demsas, who just on a podcast mentioned --- in passing --- that she'd vibe-coded the photo editor they were using for her publication. That's a bananas statement! And we're all just, shrug, or worse: "that's slop!"

                Don't get me wrong, I think we'll print money hats off this sentiment. By all means, do whatever you can to leave the lane we're building in as open and stigmatized as possible!

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