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What even is an OS now?

310 points · 479 comments · fratellobigio

  1. meredithbloom · · focus · HN ↗
    > "But it booted straight into BASIC. That’s all it did. I was, like, 8 years old. I wasn’t about to learn BASIC. What I learned instead: computers were not as awesome as I’d imagined."

    You were the exception. Most kids felt awe. We started learning BASIC and creating "dumb games". That's the origin story of most people my age who ended up in this doomed industry.

    1. autoexec · · focus · HN ↗
      I think you were the exception. Most kids never even knew what BASIC was. If there was a game already on the computer, they'd be happy to play it. If they really liked the game they might learn how to start the game if it wasn't already running, but they didn't care about doing anything else. Kids who were into computers looked at a computer and saw endless possibility. Everybody else played sports outside, watched TV, or hung out with their friends.
      1. musicale · · focus · HN ↗
        > Most kids never even knew what BASIC was

        Yet magazines and books commonly published program listings for games in BASIC which many kids somehow managed to type in and run.

        1. tptacek · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, I did that too. That's what you did with these machines. Deeply unsatisfying! Like: a real lesson in how gnarly real computers actually were. This is my point. You got one of these thingies and thought you could do anything, but it turns out "anything" took on values ranging from "hours to many hours of typing in BASIC listings and then working through inscrutable errors until something showed up on the screen but then crashed". Computers sucked ass!

          Until like a year ago.

          1. qsera · · focus · HN ↗
            >You got one of these thingies and thought you could do anything..

            Why did you think that? Did you see people use it like that? anything? really?

            For me, computers became intriguing after I started programming in BASIC. Not before that. Before that I was just curious about what the big deal about these things are...

            In the literature, there would be passages that describe how computer followed "instructions", but I never could make sense of that or understood what an "instruction" was. So it didn't really sway me either way. I just tried hard and remained curious to understand what this "instruction" was and how I could give it to computers...

            May be your falling the same way for LLMs now..

            1. tptacek · · focus · HN ↗
              I don't know probably because I was eight years old.
              1. musicale · · focus · HN ↗
                Good point - what might become fun and engaging at 10 or 11 could be more frustrating at 8, especially on your own.
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