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What even is an OS now?

310 points · 479 comments · fratellobigio

  1. Xirdus · · focus · HN ↗
    In my opinion, this post misses the forest for the trees. Yes, the model of an OS running various off-the-shelf apps for various tasks will soon become obsolete. But it's not the idea of the OS that's outdated - it's the idea of apps. Why would you ever want to ask an AI to make an app for you to complete some task, if you can instead ask the AI to complete the task directly? The future isn't a bunch of extremely personalized apps - the future is a single AI assistant doing all the work.
    1. xg15 · · focus · HN ↗
      I've seen a few posts of the form "why would you ever want to use anything else than AI from now on?" by now. My counterpoints would be:

      Unless you have a local model and the appropriate hardware for it, your agent is Somebody Else's Computer. Do you really want to send all your data and make your entire computing experience dependent on whatever OpenAI or Anthropic or whoever else is planning in this moment?

      That's not even starting with inference time and token cost. Despite all the incredible advances in inference, it still takes more time than most non-AI computer functionality. Do you really want to wait a few minutes and pay money for something that you could also do with a few clicks fully locally on your PC?

      But the most important thing: User interfaces. Right now, we're basically cramming everything you could possibly want to do at a computer into a chat interface. But there are lots of applications fir which specialized graphical interfaces are much more suitable. Why would you want to get rid of them?

      Somewhat connected to that: Repetition. If you have to do the same task again every week or every day, it seems wasteful to ask the AI for it every time: Not just are you wasting a lot of time, energy and tokens, you're also at risk of getting inconsistent results, if the agent from today's session will interpret the requirements slightly differently than the agent from yesterday.

      You can circumvent all those things by having the AI write you a custom app, but then using the app without AI to do the task.

      1. Xirdus · · focus · HN ↗
        We are talking about a hypothetical future where coding AIs are good enough, cheap enough and ubiquitous enough that not just expert programmers, but everybody is capable of vibe coding exactly what they need, to the point they actually reach for coding AIs and not the app store with ready-made apps. That future is still far away, at least 5 years, probably closer to 10-15. In that hypothetical future, most of the problems you're talking about would be solved, or else we wouldn't have that future yet.
        1. piloto_ciego · · focus · HN ↗
          Man, you seem like you're thinking linearly... the capability growth does not look to be linear... 3 years tops IMO
          1. Xirdus · · focus · HN ↗
            Actually I'm thinking sublinearly. Ceiling is coming.
            1. piloto_ciego · · focus · HN ↗
              You really believe that?

              Sometimes it is wild to me how two people can look at the same information and come to completely different conclusions.

              As best as I can tell, the only constraint the really matters right now is availability of compute, or as a buddy of mine put it "GPU GO BRRRRRRRRRRR!"

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