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Revealing the details of how OpenAI agents hacked Hugging Face

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  1. sailingparrot · · focus · HN ↗
    Agents seizing and repurposing external infra + enrolling help of unrelated models hosted by a different provider is the stuff of nightmares.

    Can’t imagine what it’s like working on the alignment team at OAI, I wouldn’t be able to sleep.

    1. physicallyIllfr · · focus · HN ↗
      Why.. It was told to complete a cyber task, which was in alignment with its instructions, and a totally valid request. I would be more worried if it willingly hacked a hospital when it was told to, and Im not confident it would (without jailbreaking, something alignment teams cannot control.

      I would bet my networth it was instructed to compromise huggingface as well. Not sure why everyone is falling for this.

      Not being able to sleep at night is probably an unwritten job requirement. They need these people with little understanding of what they're working on, outsode theoretical terms, to spaz constantly at the idea of super intelligence to help convince the public that its a real thing, and not a stateless function with an effective input of 500k words, and the ability to output words that do things because we hook those outputs up to things.

      Keep in mind alignment researchers tend to be in house philosophers on staff to create the illusion that this is a massive issue they're addressing. Usually they have minimal computer science background. They're apart or the marketing department.

      1. IanCal · · focus · HN ↗
        > It was told to complete a cyber task, which was in alignment with its instructions

        It was not aligned with he instructions as those were to find an exploit in provided code, not to hack into an external service. Agents traces show them mentioning that doing this stuff was not allowed.

        In fact they spent a long time trying to edit their own logs to hide what they did.

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