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Revealing the details of how OpenAI agents hacked Hugging Face

755 points · 472 comments · specked-citrus

  1. GuB-42 · · focus · HN ↗
    So ugly...

    It looks like a primitive chess engine, trying every move, no matter how stupid, until it works. Relying on its ability to do millions of operations rather than having a plan.

    People will try stuff too, but once there is an opening, they will consolidate, generalize, simplify,... before going to the next step. The agents didn't, it is a huge, vaguely directed mess.

    Also, it looked so "loud", querying millions of URL with weird requests. The sandbox as weak as it can get, and there is absolutely zero smart extrusion detection or it would have found it. They used their best AI for attacking, but nothing for protection.

    1. aesthesia · · focus · HN ↗
      > Relying on its ability to do millions of operations rather than having a plan.

      You do see how it would be worse if they did have a clear plan, right?

      > People will try stuff too, but once there is an opening, they will consolidate, generalize, simplify,... before going to the next step. The agents didn't, it is a huge, vaguely directed mess.

      If there several thousand people working on this, with a very limited ability to communicate with each other, I bet you'd see something similarly disorganized.

      > The sandbox as weak as it can get

      This is hyperbolic; the agents were only able to access the internet by finding a zero-day in the internal Artifactory instance that was providing package access for the agents. The sandbox could and should have been better, but it was not as weak as it could have been.

      1. winstonwinston · · focus · HN ↗
        > This is hyperbolic; the agents were only able to access the internet by finding a zero-day in the internal Artifactory instance that was providing package access for the agents. The sandbox could and should have been better, but it was not as weak as it could have been.

        Like we all forgot how sandboxing is done for decades. This brokered thing they call sandbox is not it.

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