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1. GuB-42 · 1790374877 · focus · HN ↗

   So ugly...

   It looks like a primitive chess engine, trying every move, no matter how stupid, until it works. Relying on its ability to do millions of operations rather than having a plan.

   People will try stuff too, but once there is an opening, they will consolidate, generalize, simplify,... before going to the next step. The agents didn't, it is a huge, vaguely directed mess.

   Also, it looked so "loud", querying millions of URL with weird requests. The sandbox as weak as it can get, and there is absolutely zero smart extrusion detection or it would have found it. They used their best AI for attacking, but nothing for protection.

   1. dmurray · 1790376028 · focus · HN ↗

      Brute forcing every move, no matter how stupid, is a great strategy if you have the resources to do it.

      Run the same protocol again, but have the agents think they had limited resources or that HuggingFace was rate limiting them, and they'd find something you'd consider smarter.

      Computers don't have a sense of elegance by default. Elegance emerges from constraints.

      1. fn-mote · 1790377775 · focus · HN ↗

         > Brute forcing every move, no matter how stupid, is a great strategy

         Meh. I really disagree. WHY is it a great strategy? Seems like an inefficient waste of resources and time to me.

         1. hardaker · 1790382512 · focus · HN ↗

            I've never liked the concept either. Except the bugs that fuzzing has found has proven me wrong. This is just the next level of fuzzing.

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