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1. jcomp · 1790380573 · focus · HN ↗

   There is an effectively unlimited supply of people willing to take sums of money to work on anti-human endeavors, so long as they and theirs are not the humans involved.

   1. quietmonkey · 1790381181 · focus · HN ↗

      There is not an unlimited supply of unpatriotic people, no.

      1. jcomp · 1790383544 · focus · HN ↗

         Agreed. Not unlimited, effectively unlimited.

         This is wildly off-topic but what does patriotism even mean anymore? What would you say was the last time someone in a position of power sacrificed themselves for the good of the country? vs. sacrificing the country for the good of themselves, which I can assure you was within the last 48 hours?

         1. anonym29 · 1790385259 · focus · HN ↗

            Edward Snowden? Chelsea Manning? Reality Winner? I'm sure there have been others but these heroes come to mind quickly when considering people who've sacrificed themselves for the good of the country.

            1. selfhoster1312 · 1790404122 · focus · HN ↗

               Not that i disagree, but at the time these people were called traitors to their nation by people who claim to be patriots. I guess it all depends whose interests your patriotism defends, which is why patriotism as a concept/value is not really useful.

               1. mitxela · 1790420047 · focus · HN ↗

                  And Hitler said he was just defending his country from the evil invaders. Bad people always have excuses and if they're good at being bad, they have excuses that work well.

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