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How we learned to stop worrying and love campus surveillance

269 points · 139 comments · cdrnsf

  1. jcomp · · focus · HN ↗
    There is an effectively unlimited supply of people willing to take sums of money to work on anti-human endeavors, so long as they and theirs are not the humans involved.
    1. quietmonkey · · focus · HN ↗
      There is not an unlimited supply of unpatriotic people, no.
      1. jcomp · · focus · HN ↗
        Agreed. Not unlimited, effectively unlimited.

        This is wildly off-topic but what does patriotism even mean anymore? What would you say was the last time someone in a position of power sacrificed themselves for the good of the country? vs. sacrificing the country for the good of themselves, which I can assure you was within the last 48 hours?

        1. anonym29 · · focus · HN ↗
          Edward Snowden? Chelsea Manning? Reality Winner? I'm sure there have been others but these heroes come to mind quickly when considering people who've sacrificed themselves for the good of the country.
          1. jcomp · · focus · HN ↗
            Excellent examples, but it unfortunately proves the point: 2018 was the last time you can say someone even somewhat arguably sacrificed themselves for the good of the country. 8 years later we "patriots" pay 7% for mortgages and $7 for diesel as Don Jr. and Hunter enrich themselves on crypto scams and sicko laptop media tours.
            1. infinite_spin · · focus · HN ↗
              relevant: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;libroot.org&#x2F;posts&#x2F;what-happened-to-the-snowden-archive" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;libroot.org&#x2F;posts&#x2F;what-happened-to-the-snowden-archi...
              1. jcomp · · focus · HN ↗
                A fascinating read, and very timely, thank you for sharing. If ever there was an argument against “too many people would have to keep quiet” this is it. Sickening.
              2. triyambakam · · focus · HN ↗
                What?! Apparently only about 1% of the estimated hundreds of thousands of documents were ever published.
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