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Supreme Court permits states to use SAVE database for citizenship checks

79 points · 105 comments · speckx

  1. ck2 · · focus · HN ↗
    hacked, copied and distributed to countries that are trying to harm us in 3, 2, 1

    remember Heritage Foundation spent a small fortune to try to find illegal voting over the past decades and they only found a handful of cases, most accidental and not willful and far too few to cause any effect at all

    if the Dems get the Senate somehow and don't immediately pass laws to protect voting against actions of the Executive, well then they deserve to lose 2028

    of course he'll veto everything but there might be enough will to override

    1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
      > find illegal voting over the past decades and they only found a handful of cases

      They found hundreds of cases this year in Pennsylvania, from the 2020 election alone, with a lot more left to look at.

      1. hydrogen7800 · · focus · HN ↗
        >hundreds of cases this year in Pennsylvania

        This something like an order of magnitude lower than the error margin.

        1. sejje · · focus · HN ↗
          Florida elected George W by 437 votes in 2000.

          Al Franken won a senate seat by 312 votes in 2008

          A Maine House seat was won by 1 vote in 2024

          1 illegal vote is too many.

          1. ck2 · · focus · HN ↗
            so, counter-example, one murder of a child by a gun is too many

            except there now have been hundreds if not thousands of those murders

            the gun argument against regulation is "it's a right and it would bother too many legit rights"

            so same energy, "voting is a right and would bother too many legit rights"

            there you go

            let me know when guns are harder to get than voting

            and when child murders by gun are fewer than "illegal votes"

            then we can talk

            DOJ just ordered teenagers can buy handguns, soon by US mail, good luck with that

            do you understand how many billions are being spent on this voter blocking effort?

            how many dollars per voter do you want to spend? it's currently hundreds per voter

            so find each accidental "illegal vote" is literally costing MILLIONS to find

            and there is NOTHING stopping an audit AFTER a close election and reversing the result in courts

            but can't undo the child murder, ever

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