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Supreme Court permits states to use SAVE database for citizenship checks

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m463 · 1790365757 · focus · HN ↗
I was wondering what this was.
SAVE - Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements
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1. delichon · 1790366051 · focus · HN ↗
  You cannot simultaneously have free immigration and a welfare state. -- Milton Friedman
  Turns out you can, but for how long?
  1. goatlover · 1790366162 · focus · HN ↗
    As long as the government doesn't spend trillions on fighting endless wars in the ME, while making it difficult for immigrants to become citizens, then over funding an agency to crack down on immigrants while claiming there is some sort of invasion, all the while cutting taxes for the super wealthy.
    rattlesnakedave · 1790366658 · focus · HN ↗
    You could zero out the Pentagon tomorrow and still have to confront the welfare-state arithmetic. Social Security and Medicare alone cost vastly more than defense.
    triceratops · 1790368044 · focus · HN ↗
    Two things:
    1. AIUI even undocumented people use fake Social Security numbers to work. They thus pay Social Security and Medicare taxes without getting any benefits.
    2. Social Security is effed because of its structure - current workers pay for current retirees - and the inverting population pyramid. This is unrelated to who the workers are.

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