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Zelensky says Russia has widened attacks to hit Ukraine's data centres

102 points · 147 comments · dabinat

running101 · 1790363869 · focus · HN ↗
Z should hit Russian data centers.
1. stickfigure · 1790365761 · focus · HN ↗
  It's a mistake to blindly adopt tit-for-tat. Presumably Z has a list of important targets and is working his way down. Maybe data centers rank, maybe they don't.
  During the Battle of Britain, Churchill ordered a bombing attack on Berlin. Consequently, Hitler ordered Göring to switch from attacking military infrastructure to attacking London. This is widely considered to have been a significant strategic mistake that helped the British win the Battle of Britain.
  1. verdverm · 1790371004 · focus · HN ↗
    I would imagine data centers would have more military value for Ruzzia than Wildberry, but also a significant escalation (which Ruzzia has now seemingly done)
    Data centers are now dual use infrastructure and valid war targets
    nradov · 1790371449 · focus · HN ↗
    Discussion of certain tactics as "escalation" is a bit silly. Both sides have already escalated about as far as they're able — short of using WMDs.
    subscribed · 1790376293 · focus · HN ↗
    "both sides" - is Ruzzia primarily attacking military targets or civilians, cam you recall?
    We could also check how many children have been kidnapped by the both sides.
    verdverm · 1790376483 · focus · HN ↗
    "Russia’s ‘human safari’ in southern Ukraine is a warning to the world"
    <a href="https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-human-safari-in-southern-ukraine-is-a-warning-to-the-world/" rel="nofollow">https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russias-h...
    Ruzzians hunt and kill babushkas for sport, sickening
    <a href="https://meanovia.com/babushka-meaning/" rel="nofollow">https://meanovia.com/babushka-meaning/
    drysine · 1790416002 · focus · HN ↗
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    verdverm · 1790431118 · focus · HN ↗
    the UkrainianWarVideoReport subreddit has video evidence for some cases
    content warning, that subr is not for the faint of heart
    drysine · 1790490481 · focus · HN ↗
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    stickfigure · 1790628259 · focus · HN ↗
    Plenty of sources provided in this thread. You either have your head stuck in the ground or you're a paid shill. Go away.
    rasz · 1790432479 · focus · HN ↗
    What more do you want? a direct link to telegram channel of russian drone team murdering civilians?
    here is one boasting about bombing UN humanitarian convoy <a href="https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@osvedomitell_alex/34456" rel="nofollow">https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@osvedomitell_alex/34456
    attacks on civilians <a href="https://t.me/habr_bpla" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/habr_bpla
    same <a href="https://t.me/shock3OA" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/shock3OA, this one posted famous video murdering civilain on a bicycle <a href="https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/08/23/8049952/" rel="nofollow">https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/08/23/8049952/
    this one posts torture videos <a href="https://t.me/s/arx_spn" rel="nofollow">https://t.me/s/arx_spn
    drysine · 1790490899 · focus · HN ↗
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    mopsi · 1790514126 · focus · HN ↗
    The habr_bpla Telegram channel, which is run by drone pilots from the Russian 18th separate motorised rifle brigade and often posts videos of their drone attacks on civilians in Kherson, was first shared with you years ago, yet the blood remains lukewarm.
    The UN inquiry sums such channels up:
    Russian armed forces have committed murder of civilians as crimes against humanity using drones, concludes the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Ukraine in a new report. The Commission examined over 300 publicly available videos of attacks and over 600 text posts on Telegram channels and, where possible, identified victims of these attacks. It interviewed 91 persons from the areas affected by drone attacks, including victims, witnesses, local authorities and medical personnel. From July 2024, Russian forces have recurrently killed and injured civilians in an area stretching over more than 100 kilometres along the right bank of the Dnipro River in Kherson Province. The drone attacks have been widespread, systematic and conducted as part of a coordinated state policy, the report said. The drone operators used video feeds transmitted in real time by the cameras embedded in the drones, focused on targets that were visibly civilian, and dropped explosives on them. Hundreds of these video feeds have been regularly disseminated on Russian Telegram channels, some of them with thousands of subscribers, displaying the crimes, as well as text posts announcing further attacks. The scale and intensity of the drone attacks against civilians and civilian objects as well as the destruction of houses and basic infrastructure, the targeting of all means of transport, and attacks against emergency and rescue services, have all rendered the affected areas unliveable and left many residents with no other choice than to flee. The recurrent drone attacks, the widely disseminated videos showing them, and numerous posts explicitly exhorting the population to leave suggest a coordinated state policy, on the part of the Russian authorities, to force the population of Kherson Province to leave the area. The Commission therefore concludes that Russian armed forces may have committed the crime against humanity of forcible transfer of population.
    <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/05/un-commission-concludes-russian-armed-forces-drone-attacks-against-civilians" rel="nofollow">https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/05/un-commissio...
    drysine · 1790544909 · focus · HN ↗
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    mopsi · 1790565042 · focus · HN ↗
    I named a source and provided an analysis of its contents, and all I see in return is sealioning.
    Sealioning is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate", and has been likened to a denial-of-service attack targeted at human beings.
    [deleted] · 1790575810 · focus · HN ↗
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    nradov · 1790377012 · focus · HN ↗
    Yes, Russia is bad. The point is that they don't have much capability remaining to escalate beyond what they're already doing. So the war will grind on indefinitely.
    verdverm · 1790377534 · focus · HN ↗
    Russian certainly seems to be escalating by way of presumed attacks against NATO states to test the alliances resolve in attempting to show the response is weak, goal is to undermine NATO's own trust in itself (each other)
    Depending on how you consider escalation, their preference pivot from one-way drones to ballistic missiles can be considered one
    tim333 · 1790428275 · focus · HN ↗
    I've thought that before but they come up with new things quite often.
    ponector · 1790405723 · focus · HN ↗
    Check how many power plants, how many dams, how many book producing facilities, how many theatres are being destroyed by each side. It's clear who has started a new round and continue genocidal war. Russians had tried to erase Ukrainian etnic identity for centuries.
    subscribed · 1790418445 · focus · HN ↗
    Oh, I checked. I think you misread my comment.
    drysine · 1790576109 · focus · HN ↗
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    subscribed · 1790580583 · focus · HN ↗
    "Moscov said", oh yeah, so now a statement from the centre of the campaign of lies is treated as an evidence.
    "Orphans evacuated from the war zone", OMG, Goebbels would be proud.
    I'd need to see an actual evidence there were zero children kidnapped. A clear statement from the Ukrainian side (the one acting with integrity when the aggressor was bombing hospitals or hunting civilians with drones) will be sufficient.
    drysine · 1790605018 · focus · HN ↗
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    drysine · 1790605324 · focus · HN ↗
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    subscribed · 1790607009 · focus · HN ↗
    Oh yes, "Russian claims", Kremlin propaganda tube (TASS) or a Belarusian "source" as the evidence.
    Talk about hilarious.
    Get something of this calibre:
    - <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/09/un-commission-concerned-about-human-impact-russias-systematic-targeting" rel="nofollow">https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2026/09/un-commissio...
    - <a href="https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/russian-authorities-committed-crimes-against-humanity-targeting-civilian" rel="nofollow">https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/russian-auth...
    - <a href="https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/22/ukraine-escalating-russian-attacks-civilians" rel="nofollow">https://www.hrw.org/news/2025/05/22/ukraine-escalating-russi...
    These are based on the extensive evidence, not propaganda.
    Russian genocidal army is extensively targeting civilians and at this point it's not up to the "debate", especially not with the messaging originating at the head of the Ruzzian aggression.
    Look, you're going to be paid for your posts no matter why, don't need to make it look silly, kacáp :)))
    drysine · 1790607784 · focus · HN ↗
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