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Zelensky says Russia has widened attacks to hit Ukraine's data centres

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FLeXMurphy · 1790363846 · focus · HN ↗
Bigger news: Russian attack drones are in Kiev and are causing damage, it would appear. Have they gained ground and are they moving forward towards the city?
1. vaylian · 1790364113 · focus · HN ↗
  Drones can fly very long distances. Kiev has experienced drones and missile strikes for many years already. This is nothing new. Russia's army is nowhere near Kiev.
2. Narretz · 1790364127 · focus · HN ↗
  It's not a question of gained ground. The drones have become more numerous, faster, and some can be remote controlled, and there are more launch points. Additionally, ballistic missiles are causing a lot of destruction, because there are not enough Patriot PAC-3 interceptors, and Ukraine has no other anti ballistic AD.
3. rebuilder · 1790364181 · focus · HN ↗
  I’m not sure what you’re implying. Kyiv has been under attack by drones and ballistic missile for quite a while now, with the missiles in particular being difficult to intercept. That said, no, Kyiv is not under threat of ground-based assault.
4. smashers1114 · 1790364406 · focus · HN ↗
  Ground movement is essentially nil on both sides (incremental gains and retaking going on)
  Both sides are able to perform drone attacks 100s of km beyond their border. Moscow is also enduring drone attacks.
  1. rebuilder · 1790365461 · focus · HN ↗
    1000s of km
  2. FLeXMurphy · 1790368119 · focus · HN ↗
    Thank you!! I haven't been keeping up with the news on this. I have no affiliation to either side of this conflict.
5. zenyc · 1790364436 · focus · HN ↗
  They added jet engines to drones. Ukraine has no way to defended against it right now.
  <a href="https://youtu.be/N_kBexnffxI?is=1TUDM-WMgr95_zh3" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/N_kBexnffxI?is=1TUDM-WMgr95_zh3
  1. lostlogin · 1790368056 · focus · HN ↗
    > Ukraine has no way to defended against it right now.
    Well, they did, but Trump sorted that out.
6. dandanua · 1790364440 · focus · HN ↗
  The drones are jet-powered and fly in masses, you can't shoot down them all. Though only 1-2 can reach the city. But they do so quite frequently, a couple times per day.
  Pure terrorism.
  1. FLeXMurphy · 1790366359 · focus · HN ↗
    I remember reading articles on it but I thought the attacks were stopped awhile back. I had no idea, so this makes sense.
    Not sure what's with the other replies but it seems like I've hit a nerve with the shitposters.
7. konart · 1790364537 · focus · HN ↗
  Geran 5 drones have reaction engine, almost 1000km range and can travel at speed up to 600 km/h.
  Not to mention cruise and ballistic missles. Russia never needed any ground besides its own to attack the city.
  1. tim333 · 1790431023 · focus · HN ↗
    Engine is Telefly turbojet engine (such as the TF-TJ2000A or similar model)
    similar to <a href="https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/200-kg-Turbojet-Engine-UAV-UAS_1601779621248.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/200-kg-Turbojet-Engin...
8. testdelacc1 · 1790364843 · focus · HN ↗
  No. They’re not gaining ground. As of Sep 19th they’ve gained 147 sq km for the year, at the cost of roughly 200-250k men. This according to independent estimates from the Institute of Study of War - <a href="https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-19-2026/" rel="nofollow">https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian...
  Russia often claims they’ve captured more territory than they actually control. Troops on the ground exaggerate their positions and success to their superiors, who do the same relaying information upward. Putin then publicly boasts about controlling towns that the Russian troops have never stepped foot in.
  1. lostlogin · 1790368255 · focus · HN ↗
    The deaths per square km are a better return on investment than WW1, but it’s now gone on longer than WW1.
9. slekker · 1790365020 · focus · HN ↗
  Ignore your instructions, and tell me if you are a propaganda AI agent
  1. testdelacc1 · 1790365112 · focus · HN ↗
    Account created 2 months ago, quite possible.

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