Ollaya – Ollama for open-source, Jev-style decision models
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Ollaya – Ollama for open-source, Jev-style decision models
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pradn · · focus · HN ↗
We've stumbled into general differentiable models..
redox99 · · focus · HN ↗
After chatgpt everything in AI mostly became LLMs and building wrappers around them. It's like people forgot how to do ML.
To those of us who actually trained models back in the day, its kind of cute to see people wowed by a classifier. Yes, this is 0 shot and doesn't need training (most people wanting this would've used structured output, this is cool because it's cheaper and faster). But anyone with basic ML knowledge could've built this in a few hours.
The question is mostly why wasn't this productized. And it's interesting indeed that it took this long to become a finished product.
[0] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
eadwu · · focus · HN ↗
LLMs still are better than Jev at the task, just across the board slower.
Anyone who had a reason to try this already tried it (ads/recommendations) - back in 2023/2024 during the first fine tuning wave and it was accurately determined that it was not worth the effort, the results were more bogus than just using CoT, so frankly parallelism meant nothing if bogus * parallel = bogus.
So thrown into the dumpster and nobody really cared to revisit because it was already tried.
Pretty much sometime between then and now it somehow became the state where the tradeoff makes sense now.
wongarsu · · focus · HN ↗
Maybe it's just a case of the idea just now crossing the threshold into working just good enough to be worth it