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U.S. appeals court upholds designation of Anthropic as supply chain risk

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  1. petcat · · focus · HN ↗
    I still don't fully understand what this was about. It sounds like the DoD said they wanted unrestricted access to Anthropic's models, Anthropic refused, so the Pentagon declared that they wouldn't use them at all.

    Isn't this basically what Anthropic wanted?

    1. hiddencost · · focus · HN ↗
      No. This also means that no companies that work with th DoD can use anthropic models for any purpose.
      1. VWWHFSfQ · · focus · HN ↗
        Dario wanted to sell a $200 million chat bot to the US military and also dictate how it could be used. The government said no. And because of that Claude also cannot be deployed to the GenAI.mil AI infrastructure. This means that any sensitive work for the DoD that uses Claude will go through Anthropic's infrastructure, not the US military-hosted backend.

        So yes obviously defense contractors are forbidden to use it.

        1. tmvphil · · focus · HN ↗
          If the government wanted to put iPhones in missiles, and apple said "we won't sell you iPhones to put in missiles" would the correct government response be to say "no government contractor can ever use an iPhone".
          1. VWWHFSfQ · · focus · HN ↗
            The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones or anything else that is not backed by government-hosted or compliant infrastructure, such as GovCloud. The fact that the Pentagon and Anthropic could not come to an agreement on the usage and deployment to GenAI.mil means that it can't be used.

            The reasons why are incidental to the requirement for defense contractors.

            1. Jtsummers · · focus · HN ↗
              > The DoD and US military does not allow contractors to use iPhones

              What are you talking about? That's nowhere close to a true statement.

              1. VWWHFSfQ · · focus · HN ↗
                > that is not backed by government-hosted or compliant infrastructure, such as GovCloud
                1. Jtsummers · · focus · HN ↗
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