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U.S. appeals court upholds designation of Anthropic as supply chain risk

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  1. ApolloFortyNine · · focus · HN ↗
    I know everyone says this is political but it actually seems like a textbook designation. Anthropic wanted to have rules on how the military used AI, the military said no and therefore doesn't want anthropic used anywhere in their supply line.

    This is like a pen manufacturer not wanting their pens used to sign drone strike orders, now the military needs to have a special box of pens that don't have stipulations attached. With AI usage it would be the same thing except applied to entire product chains. It seems like it would just add more complexity to operations.

    You can agree with the rules anthropic wanted, but having rules set by a private company at all that apply to the military does seem fair for the military to object to.

    >The Department reasonably feared that Anthropic might manipulate Claude’s design to prevent it from performing national-security functions that the Department deems contractually authorized and necessary

    Though they'd probably put the DoD on the cybersecurity whitelist today, the very idea of the claude whitelists for certain functionality already exists and is being used by them today.

    1. burkaman · · focus · HN ↗
      The reason it appears corrupt is that OpenAI has the exact same restrictions (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;index&#x2F;our-agreement-with-the-department-of-war&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;openai.com&#x2F;index&#x2F;our-agreement-with-the-department-o...) but was not declared a supply chain risk. If two vendors have the same restrictions and they only designate one, then the designation must be arbitrary and&#x2F;or capricious.

      Edit: I was wrong, the statement I linked is extremely dishonest and I was misled. The contract language lower down makes it clear that there are no &quot;red lines&quot;, and OpenAI products can in fact be used for mass domestic surveillance, autonomous weapons, and social credit systems as long as they are considered legal.

      1. CodeWriter23 · · focus · HN ↗
        Do you think OpenAI&#x27;s terms for the DoD are published on a website? Pretty sure when Anthropic got zapped, OpenAI sent DoD a memo 500ms later saying they wouldn&#x27;t restrict use.

        Look at it pragmatically. What does the DoD use every single procurement for? Hint: military use.

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