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U.S. appeals court upholds designation of Anthropic as supply chain risk

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prometheus1992 · 1790355337 · focus · HN ↗
This smells like corruption to me.
OpenAI has hacked several prominent entities and is allowed to do business as usual but Anthropic putting guardrails on the military's usage of AI is the national security threat while Pentagon itself said that over reliance on AI lead to that attack on school in Minab.
I have also learned that OpenAI's president is a big maga donor and now I am thinking of cancelling my OpenAI membership todau and signing up with Anthropic again.
Edit - i am not a OAI hater and i don't hate anyone. I am just saying Anthropic is kinda getting bullied and OAI is not being punished enough for their actions. It is time for me to support Anthropic (with my $$$) instead of OAI.
1. aftbit · 1790357118 · focus · HN ↗
  Most favored companies are a common feature of fascism.
  1. gruez · 1790357367 · focus · HN ↗
    Like such national champions like Airbus and Volkswagen right?
    kennywinker · 1790357501 · focus · HN ↗
    Is this a joke? Volkswagen was literally created by the nazi party.
    gruez · 1790357849 · focus · HN ↗
    So what does that say about the current German state, given that it's still a national champion? Not to mention airbus being an EU champion.
    kennywinker · 1790359270 · focus · HN ↗
    I guess I don't know what "national champion" means. Do they receive different legal treatment from other similar companies? If so, that would be a worrying signal. A common feature of fascism being present doesn't mean you've definitely got fascism, but it does raise a pretty big red flag.
    gruez · 1790369870 · focus · HN ↗
    >I guess I don't know what "national champion" means.
    <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_champions" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_champions
    >Do they receive different legal treatment from other similar companies? If so, that would be a worrying signal. A common feature of fascism being present doesn't mean you've definitely got fascism, but it does raise a pretty big red flag.
    They definitely get assistance from the government. Where that crosses into "different legal treatment" is up to you, though personally I think the distinction (if any) isn't really worth much. The original claim was "Most favored companies", not "are totally exempt from the law". In the case of openai, it's not really clear whether any laws have been broken, because despite all the cries over "they hacked people!", the question of intent would make any prosecution tricky. Not to mention there's similar cries about AI companies in general violating copyright laws, so if the implication is that openai gets to break laws scott free but anthropic doesn't, that really falls flat.
    kennywinker · 1790373432 · focus · HN ↗
    The crux of the issue isn’t hacking - all the big US labs have hacked someone now (<a href="https://www.felonybench.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.felonybench.com/)and none have faced charges. It also isn’t copyright violations, they all seem equally guilty and equally uncharged.
    The issue is openai and anthropic both make similar products in similar ways and yet only one has been designated a “supply chain risk” for entirely opaque reasons that based on timing are probably just “they didn’t kowtow correctly”.
    The gov putting their finger on the scales for the company that showed the most deference to them is not a good sign for democracy.

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