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U.S. appeals court upholds designation of Anthropic as supply chain risk

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  1. petcat · · focus · HN ↗
    I still don't fully understand what this was about. It sounds like the DoD said they wanted unrestricted access to Anthropic's models, Anthropic refused, so the Pentagon declared that they wouldn't use them at all.

    Isn't this basically what Anthropic wanted?

    1. tcdent · · focus · HN ↗
      As I understand it cane down to one point: Anthropic wanted the ability to review actions that would have an effect on human life.

      Which sounds sensible on the surface, until you realize that all military organizations have extensive experience with that exact question, and have spent centuries refining their practices. Deferring that to a private company is actually a major regression and a concerning role to pass on to the public regardless.

      FWIW I am not pro military, but it's a prominent part of human culture and not going away anytime soon. I do understand the nature of professions, however, and only one of these groups has made the interpretation of this question their specialization.

      1. hardbass · · focus · HN ↗
        Frankly I would trust Anthropic much more than the US military with human lives.
        1. scottyah · · focus · HN ↗
          Would you still in 10yrs? 30? When all the current employees have left, and anti-Western people make most of the decisions?
          1. hardbass · · focus · HN ↗
            Anti western people are already in the government now. I'd worry about the present than future hypotheticals.
        2. esafak · · focus · HN ↗
          Which part of the military? I would trust the rank and file. The commander in chief?
          1. hardbass · · focus · HN ↗
            Whichever part caused the girl school to be hit. Which has to be multiple levels for it to occur.
            1. myko · · focus · HN ↗
              The DoD is blaming AI for this (you are of course right though)
              1. hardbass · · focus · HN ↗
                Anthropic is vindicated in that you need oversight over AI being used to kill people, the USA military clearly showed itself incapable of wielding that responsibility.
        3. karmasimida · · focus · HN ↗
          I don’t, for profit company you say, nah
          1. Analemma_ · · focus · HN ↗
            The US military has assassinated American citizens with no judicial review, Anthropic has not.
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