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1. iamdelirium · 1790353251 · focus · HN ↗

   I wonder if this is going start being abused soon.

   If I was Palantir or any other GOP aligned company, I would be completely against this. What's to stop a Democratic president from doing the same thing and destroying them?

   1. doctorwho42 · 1790353897 · focus · HN ↗

      Because the modern Democrats are primarily a corporate dominated party. They haven't really had any hard hitting legislation nor legal regulation/rulings on corporations in easily the last 30 years.

      I doubt that is going to change anytime soon. They are a private entity, so they can manage and change their primary system any way they want.

      1. ipython · 1790355048 · focus · HN ↗

         I would argue the democrats are more a process oriented party. They wouldn’t pull this shit because they care about process - so much so that they wouldn’t even consider half the stuff that’s going on now as it circumvents process.

         1. reenorap · 1790355700 · focus · HN ↗

            Democrats are the same side of the coin as the Republicans.

            We, the people, are on the other side.

            1. Braxton1980 · 1790355875 · focus · HN ↗

               "Both sides"

               This is such a tired argument that over simplifies an entire group of people on both sides into a single entity that happens to be the same.

            2. cosmicgadget · 1790359394 · focus · HN ↗

               Making it a 0/1 situation is really reductive.
            3. nutjob2 · 1790362376 · focus · HN ↗

               What a load of bullshit. There are better candidates and parties and worse ones, they are not all the same. This sort of attitude just feeds voter apathy and resignation.

               Democracy is an imperfect system, but its much better than the alternatives. If more people paid attention and participated, we would have much better outcomes.

            4. whats_a_quasar · 1790380247 · focus · HN ↗

               "the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between good & bad things. you imbecile. you fucking moron."

               1. DavCreator · 1790500136 · focus · HN ↗

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         2. kryogen1c · 1790355704 · focus · HN ↗

            &gt; democrats are more a process oriented party

            Oh? Thats why Biden tried to run in 2024? Because democrats procedurally try to elect obviously incapable presidents?

            1. malicka · 1790355953 · focus · HN ↗

               Exactly. Their process prioritizes seniority generally, and this is another case. The process is, if the president wants another go, he gets another go; and he sure as heck wanted another go.

               1. joquarky · 1790363378 · focus · HN ↗

                  So one man&#x27;s desires become the rule for everyone else?

                  1. Dylan16807 · 1790367571 · focus · HN ↗

                     There&#x27;s no reason picking someone every 4 years is democratic but every 8 years isn&#x27;t...
            2. qlte · 1790356060 · focus · HN ↗

               That&#x27;s not responsive to OP or coherent at all really, even if rhetorically structured like a gotcha.

               Incumbent Presidents in the US almost always run for reelection to a second term, that&#x27;s the normal expected outcome with vanishingly few exceptions in the last century.

               1. kryogen1c · 1790358482 · focus · HN ↗

                  &gt; That&#x27;s not responsive to OP or coherent

                  The claim was Ds are more procedural than Rs. Asking what process the Ds followed to attempt to run, and then back out of running, biden (who again, was very obviously and publicly mentally incompetent) is clearly a rebuttal to a presented point.

                  1. rootusrootus · 1790360656 · focus · HN ↗

                     &gt; who again, was very obviously and publicly mentally incompetent

                     You can repeat that as often as you want, but it doesn&#x27;t seem well grounded. He&#x27;s always had a stutter, and since he left office he has given speeches which suggest his mental faculties remain intact. Is he slowing down? Yeah. He&#x27;s got quite a long ways to go before he&#x27;s in McConnell territory.

                     In any case, what does his choosing to run have to do with process? Did he violate the process? Seems to me he was following it to a tee.

            3. reenorap · 1790356680 · focus · HN ↗

               Don&#x27;t forget how Harris wasn&#x27;t even nominated.

               And all the shenanigans around 2016 when Bernie Sanders was shut out by the DNC. Even Elizabeth Warren said outright that the DNC rigged the 2016 nomination. I think the outcome would have been very, very different if the DNC didn&#x27;t fuck with the timeline and forced Hillary as the Dem nominee.

         3. paulddraper · 1790356869 · focus · HN ↗

            In recent history:

            * removed filibuster for lower-court nominations (&quot;nuclear option&quot;)

            * impeached the president twice in a term

            * tried that former president in the Senate after his term ended

            * expanded mail-in voting en masse

            * repeatedly attempted to eliminate 60-vote rule for legislation

            I&#x27;m not claiming these were illegal, I&#x27;m just saying the process adapts to the needs.

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