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Classified estimates show the NSA is paying billions to test AI models

178 points · 108 comments · rdmuser

  1. bhouston · · focus · HN ↗
    "Testing"? Sure, Jan.

    They would have to be incompetent if they were not using them both for security penetration as well as social engineering / election meddling as everyone else is.

    1. vrganj · · focus · HN ↗
      Midterms are coming up in the US :-)
      1. bhouston · · focus · HN ↗
        I am not sure the NSA has been turned inward at this point.

        I was thinking more of the Alberta Separatist referendum (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;12069878&#x2F;foreign-influence-watchdog-aware-of-concerns-alberta-referendum&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;globalnews.ca&#x2F;news&#x2F;12069878&#x2F;foreign-influence-watchd...) as well as against leftist politics in South America (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2026&#x2F;sep&#x2F;24&#x2F;trump-brazil-election-interference" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2026&#x2F;sep&#x2F;24&#x2F;trump-brazil-e...)

        Although there is evidence Israel was targeting US elections, including trying to harm Mamdani&#x27;s chances: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BlackCore_election_interference_scandal" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BlackCore_election_interferenc...

        1. throwawayffffas · · focus · HN ↗
          You are thinking of the CIA. The NSA mission is primarily inward focused.

          While the NSA may have it&#x27;s fingers in any of these cases. As far as i understand the agencies roles these would be jobs for the CIA.

          1. derektank · · focus · HN ↗
            &gt;The NSA mission is primarily inward focused.

            This is simply false. Only domestic law enforcement agencies like the FBI can conduct domestic investigations. Law enforcement or counter-intelligence agents might be given access to intelligence the NSA collects if they have a warrant, but it is not in the remit of the agency to intentionally collect information on US persons, it’s only allowed incidentally when conducting foreign intelligence collection

            1. pstuart · · focus · HN ↗
              What makes you think that the NSA cares about rules or laws?

              Snowden showed that was the case, and that was a long time ago. Lots more compute and toys for them to play with now.

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