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Classified estimates show the NSA is paying billions to test AI models

178 points · 108 comments · rdmuser

  1. paimapi · · focus · HN ↗
    I feel like any AI regulation passed wouldn't have enough teeth to rein in the NSA because not even the Fourth Amendment seems applicable to the agency. let's not forget the ex-post-facto legalization of mass wiretapping and surveillance [0] with both establishment political parties supporting it on 'national security' concerns [1]. whatever monitoring or testing they're doing today will be similarly hand-waved away in the name of security theater

    this is just how the empire has always operated - we have always been at war with Eastasia

    [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(2001%E2%80%932007)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(...

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;deeplinks&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;fact-check-obamas-misleading-answer-about-warrantless-wiretapping-daily-show" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eff.org&#x2F;deeplinks&#x2F;2012&#x2F;10&#x2F;fact-check-obamas-misl...

    1. forshaper · · focus · HN ↗
      Previously it was a little reassuring to understand that the Eye of Sauron required some human analyst to actually look at your data.
      1. wmf · · focus · HN ↗
        Humans seem like the weakest link in surveillance to me. Recent Flock data confirms this.
        1. brendoelfrendo · · focus · HN ↗
          Well, they are, but if a surveillance state exists, then one thing that will save the ordinary citizen from its gaze is that humans have a limited amount of attention. A massive intelligence complex full of analysts can only process a fraction of the intelligence that a fleet of AI agents can handle. So now you have the worst of both worlds: the massive capabilities of modern AI at the behest of humans who have shown they can&#x27;t be responsible with that capability.
          1. macintux · · focus · HN ↗
            Plus the inherent unreliability of AI combined with the blind willingness of people to trust the results from AI. What a mess we&#x27;re in.
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