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Classified estimates show the NSA is paying billions to test AI models

178 points · 108 comments · rdmuser

paimapi · 1790351160 · focus · HN ↗
I feel like any AI regulation passed wouldn't have enough teeth to rein in the NSA because not even the Fourth Amendment seems applicable to the agency. let's not forget the ex-post-facto legalization of mass wiretapping and surveillance [0] with both establishment political parties supporting it on 'national security' concerns [1]. whatever monitoring or testing they're doing today will be similarly hand-waved away in the name of security theater
this is just how the empire has always operated - we have always been at war with Eastasia
[0] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(2001%E2%80%932007)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_(...
[1] <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/fact-check-obamas-misleading-answer-about-warrantless-wiretapping-daily-show" rel="nofollow">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/fact-check-obamas-misl...
1. forshaper · 1790355001 · focus · HN ↗
  Previously it was a little reassuring to understand that the Eye of Sauron required some human analyst to actually look at your data.
  1. wmf · 1790355546 · focus · HN ↗
    Humans seem like the weakest link in surveillance to me. Recent Flock data confirms this.
    bigyabai · 1790355868 · focus · HN ↗
    Humans provide accountability. The Minab school attack confirms this.
    drusepth · 1790356890 · focus · HN ↗
    Which humans were arrested or held accountable for the Minab school attack?
    paimapi · 1790360536 · focus · HN ↗
    also the 'humans' are just scapegoats for organizational and institutional pressure to shorten judgement time to the minimum amount possible. you set someone up for failure, they will fail, and if you put all the blame on them, allowing organizations and leadership to continue as they are then you're guaranteeing that it'll happen again
    Americans have a hard time thinking about problems and issues without making it all about individuals. no systems-level thinking to be found for miles (and I say this as a somewhat regularly frustrated American)

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