‹ BackHN Continuity

Thread

Factorio that you can touch

362 points · 128 comments · ibobev

  1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
    Remember that Factorio does not release its 3D models. Everything in the game is a 2D render of a 3D model, which is why the game uses so much VRAM.
    1. Sohcahtoa82 · · focus · HN ↗
      ?

      The game doesn't consume that much VRAM. It plays on 4 GB GPUs just fine. The GPU only needs to keep resident what's currently on the screen. Even including every animation frame, that's 1 GB tops.

      Hell, the minimum requirements are a GeForce 750 Ti, or Radeon r7 360. Those are 2 GB GPUs.

      1. lucb1e · · focus · HN ↗
        > The game doesn't consume that much VRAM. It plays on 4 GB GPUs just fine.

        Not everyone bought a GPU to run LLMs on. That is quite a bit of VRAM, especially for non-desktops

        1. officeplant · · focus · HN ↗
          That's the amount of VRAM that has shipped in budget to midtier gpu's since at least 2016 with the RX470/480 from AMD. You can find even older & slower examples from Nvidia and AMD (ex. Nvidia 740GT 4GB edition)

          Gaming hardware reviewers have been complaining about 4GB of VRAM not being enough since probably 2018 onward.

          I have a weird setup with two very old 5:4 1280x1024 monitors I like to use for fun, and even playing Subnautica (2018 Release date) I can use up 3.4GB of VRAM at that low of a resolution on High settings. (playing on a single monitor)

          1. lucb1e · · focus · HN ↗
            > That's the amount of VRAM that has shipped in budget to midtier gpu's since at least 2016

            In desktops maybe, which will be somewhat popular still among people who play a lot of games but not a majority (IDC has laptop sales at a 3 to 1 ratio to desktops in 2022, but that's not specific to people who play games, much less (2d) Factorio players specifically). The system I bought before my current one was in 2018 and mid-tier then was 2GB. There was no craze for (V)RAM at the time, more a question of which setting you want to play games at (and with which render distance) than whether a given laptop works for games at all

            As of last month, Steam reports that &gt;15% of their customers still have 4GB VRAM or less: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Softw...

            I&#x27;m not familiar with Subnautica beyond the name, is that known for being particularly efficient?

            edit: meant to say 4GB rather than 2GB in the Steam stats reference, fixed

            1. throawayonthe · · focus · HN ↗
              at that point can&#x27;t you just use the integrated gpu which definitely has access to more ram?
Open on Hacker News to reply ↗

Unofficial Hacker News client; not affiliated with Y Combinator.