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  1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
    Remember that Factorio does not release its 3D models. Everything in the game is a 2D render of a 3D model, which is why the game uses so much VRAM.
    1. Sohcahtoa82 · · focus · HN ↗
      ?

      The game doesn't consume that much VRAM. It plays on 4 GB GPUs just fine. The GPU only needs to keep resident what's currently on the screen. Even including every animation frame, that's 1 GB tops.

      Hell, the minimum requirements are a GeForce 750 Ti, or Radeon r7 360. Those are 2 GB GPUs.

      1. lucb1e · · focus · HN ↗
        > The game doesn't consume that much VRAM. It plays on 4 GB GPUs just fine.

        Not everyone bought a GPU to run LLMs on. That is quite a bit of VRAM, especially for non-desktops

        1. officeplant · · focus · HN ↗
          That's the amount of VRAM that has shipped in budget to midtier gpu's since at least 2016 with the RX470/480 from AMD. You can find even older & slower examples from Nvidia and AMD (ex. Nvidia 740GT 4GB edition)

          Gaming hardware reviewers have been complaining about 4GB of VRAM not being enough since probably 2018 onward.

          I have a weird setup with two very old 5:4 1280x1024 monitors I like to use for fun, and even playing Subnautica (2018 Release date) I can use up 3.4GB of VRAM at that low of a resolution on High settings. (playing on a single monitor)

          1. lucb1e · · focus · HN ↗
            > That's the amount of VRAM that has shipped in budget to midtier gpu's since at least 2016

            In desktops maybe, which will be somewhat popular still among people who play a lot of games but not a majority (IDC has laptop sales at a 3 to 1 ratio to desktops in 2022, but that's not specific to people who play games, much less (2d) Factorio players specifically). The system I bought before my current one was in 2018 and mid-tier then was 2GB. There was no craze for (V)RAM at the time, more a question of which setting you want to play games at (and with which render distance) than whether a given laptop works for games at all

            As of last month, Steam reports that &gt;15% of their customers still have 4GB VRAM or less: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Softw...

            I&#x27;m not familiar with Subnautica beyond the name, is that known for being particularly efficient?

            edit: meant to say 4GB rather than 2GB in the Steam stats reference, fixed

            1. officeplant · · focus · HN ↗
              &gt;As of last month, Steam reports that &gt;10% of their customers have 2GB VRAM or less: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Softw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;store.steampowered.com&#x2F;hwsurvey&#x2F;Steam-Hardware-Softw...

              Steam having a massive collection of users with older hardware doesn&#x27;t really make 4GB of VRAM any larger. My current main machine reports less than 1GB since its an iGPU. (But I&#x27;ve seen it use over 8gb of system memory as VRAM)

              &gt;I&#x27;m not familiar with Subnautica, is that known for being particularly efficient?

              Its a pretty well made unity engine game with a minimum requirement of Intel HD4000 integrated graphics. IDK if it would be consideredban efficient game vs other visually nice from this time frame like DOOM 2016 which runs really well on 4GB vram cards if you stick to 900p and below resoultions.

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