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Microsoft abandons personal AI chatbot race with Copilot reboot

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TuringNYC · 1790353186 · focus · HN ↗
My blood pressure rises everytime i use Enterprise Copilot at work. It seems they truncate message history heavily (to save input token costs?) and Copilot forgets the last thing you told it in the chat. It is like a real-life version of Momento (<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/" rel="nofollow">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209144/) mixed with Waiting for Gadot (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waiting_for_Godot), pretending to be in league with Anthropic.
1. OGWhales · 1790361134 · focus · HN ↗
  Huh... not my experience with the "premium" license. The interface isn't as nice and definitely less powerful than something like codex/claude code/whatever, but I don't seem to have any issues with truncation or things like that. I'm usually using 5.6 thinking (not clear which 5.6 model exactly) when I'm using copilot at work. It seems... fine? I always see people here always complaining that it's nerfed, truncates things, etc etc. The only difference I see is that interface isn't as nice nor as powerful, but I don't notice the answers being noticeably worse or anything like that. Occasionally it messes up code block formatting, but that's the only thing I can think of that annoys me.
  Now, the "copilots" integrated in certain Microsoft products can be really horrible. I assume those are some sort of custom models that are not very capable, most of them I consider effectively worthless. But the web chat interface where I can pick chatGPT 5.6 seems fine...
  1. TuringNYC · 1790371122 · focus · HN ↗
    Given you're comparing to codex/claude code you probably arent talking about MS Copilot (e.g. the thing inside MS Teams but also available standalone as MS Copilot 365). Try it out and be convinced :-)
    OGWhales · 1790380775 · focus · HN ↗
    I think I am! I use it in the browser instead of teams/the desktop app, but my understanding is that it should be the same thing. I do know most people don’t have the premium license for it at my company, not 100% sure what difference that makes but they say it’s better somehow and has access to better models, or at least did at one point.
    But yeah, comparing to codex/claude code was a bit silly since those can do way more. It’s closer to the chatGPT. I’m pretty sure 5.6 Luna, not sure exactly since it doesn’t specify Luna/Terra/Sol
    twobitshifter · 1790413253 · focus · HN ↗
    One difference is that the premium copilot has access to company files and those on your onedrive, whereas the non premium version requires you to upload files.
    saelthavron · 1790387575 · focus · HN ↗
    I don't think there is a misunderstanding. I don't recall ever having an issue with it either. Now I don't do anything extreme with it. Just questions, suggestions, or some basic task which are either Microsoft or basic business activity related. I haven't tried anything like coding, deep analysis, or anything complicated. It feels like it is for business tasks so I haven't really tried to push it to do anything outside of that.

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