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Allow babywearing carriers on planes

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  1. poltergeist11 · · focus · HN ↗

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    1. Forgeties79 · · focus · HN ↗
      What is so important that you need to get on a plane?

      See this is what has bugged me so much about how common anti-natalism has become. It has become diluted but present everywhere.

      Children are a part of our society. They are a part of your community. They are going to be around you, they are going to be where you don’t want them to be, they are just going to be present in general. And this can’t possibly be a safety argument, as planes I believe are the safest mode of transportation. If you’re worried about safety, then kids should never get in cars, which is also completely unfeasible.

      So if it’s not about safety, then what is this really about?

      1. poltergeist11 · · focus · HN ↗
        Regardless of what it is, I as an adult have full autonomy to do that, understand the pain in my ears that I will experience, and will do my best not to disrupt those around me. I also don't become a small baby-sized fleshy projectile on impact.
        1. Forgeties79 · · focus · HN ↗
          Children cannot fully understand what is happening to them for many, many years. This goes so far beyond planes. They don’t understand why they got jerked forward when you slammed the brakes on a car, or why the buckle burned their arm on a hot summer day. They don’t understand why they get a shot at the doctor, they don’t understand why the stove is hot, they don’t understand any of this crap until they get older and are exposed. The problem is that in order to avoid these situations, the only viable solution is to ask every parent to live in a lockdown-lite mode for 3 to 4 years every single time they have a kid. Is that reasonable?

          Parents have lives and families and obligations. Kids are along for the ride until they can exert their own autonomy. That’s how it has always been and that’s how it will continue to be.

          1. poltergeist11 · · focus · HN ↗
            > Parents have lives and families and obligations. Kids are along for the ride until they can exert their own autonomy. That’s how it has always been and that’s how it will continue to be.

            It's giving: "people want to have kids but also still want to do all that fun stuff they did but now with a kid because whatever, the kid will deal with it".

            1. Forgeties79 · · focus · HN ↗
              That’s not even remotely what we’re talking about.
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