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ASML says it sold 'absolutely nothing' in Europe in 2026

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Kim_Bruning · 1790344641 · focus · HN ↗
So currently europe is exposed to russia-ukraine, us-iran, and shortly china-taiwan. This is not a great place to be in.
1. w4yai · 1790464869 · focus · HN ↗
  Tell me a better place to be in ? Please don't tell me the US.
  1. mciancia · 1790468069 · focus · HN ↗
    US. Or China if you are Chinese
    Both in longer term ofc
    alexfortin · 1790474492 · focus · HN ↗
    China perhaps... but US? really? personally I can't think of any single person who grew up (like me) in Europe and would choose US as a destination.
    From my point of view is as awful as it can get: stark inequality, literally hundreds of thousands of homeless people roaming, no basic health care, but to be honest just the number of guns pro capita is enough to keep me and most of other Europeans away for good, it's just insane for what we're accustomed to. And I'm not even referring to the dystopian situation worsened daily by the current administration.
    Unless you're the kind of person who confuses absolute numbers (e.g. money you can spend per month) for actual wealth / quality of life / freedoms / rights protection / etc. Then perhaps USA is the right place, I guess?
    aidenn0 · 1790477020 · focus · HN ↗
    Homeless:
    FWIW, FEANTSA estimated over 1.2MM homeless in Europe in their most recent report[1]. That's over a population of 515MM so ~23 per 10k population. Us 746k homeless is roughly 22 per 10k population. I suspect that differences in methodology will overwhelm that 1/10k difference, but the order of magnitude seems similar.
    1/3 of the US homeless are unsheltered ("Living Rough" in the FEANTSA terminology). A quick skim of the FEANTSA report did not show any countries breaking out their rough-sleepers from the rest of the data. I do suspect that this number is higher than in the EU.
    1: <a href="https://www.feantsa.org/files/Themes/Overview/2024/Rapport_-_EN.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.feantsa.org/files/Themes/Overview/2024/Rapport_-...
    alexfortin · 1790485382 · focus · HN ↗
    Perhaps in USA is very much unevenly distributed? I visted a couple of big cities in California and the situation is abysmal, I don't know of any place in Europe even close to that, still have to see campings in the middle of a big city. I could't see the same in other cities I visited, e.g. Las Vegas and Miami.
    The numbers seem to say it's the same in theory, in practice my experience is that it very much doesn't _feel_ the same.
    mciancia · 1790505011 · focus · HN ↗
    > still have to see campings in the middle of a big city
    I saw that in London, in Rome and afair in Berlin
    Not to the same extend as camping villages in LA but still. But I also didn't go that much inside those bad parts of cities in Europe, in US I drove through them
    EdiX · 1790509115 · focus · HN ↗
    Brussels too. There's some US cities that seem to be exceptionally bad, in a league of their own, but that's probably still a small fraction of all the homeless.

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