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Does Georgism work? Five years later

514 points · 522 comments · silveraxe93

  1. GodelNumbering · · focus · HN ↗
    Georgism, or the tax on the unimproved value of the land, is the fairest tax I (and many others) can imagine. It directly counters one of the ugliest part of any economy/society - rent seeking.

    Suppose you see an area in upward economic trajectory, you buy a bunch of land/properties, then do fuck-all for the next 30 years while the hard work of everyone around that land causes your land's value to increase. You contribute nothing, while benefitting from others' contributions. All this while someone who could have used that land/property for a more productive used is deprived of it. Georgism directly counters that by taxing any 'base land value' that you own.

    Georgism and the 'taxing progressively higher any property a person directly/indirectly owns after first N properties' are seriously very much needed around the world, economic rent-seeking steals from future generations.

    1. Buttons840 · · focus · HN ↗
      What prevents the landlord rent seekers from just charging more rent? Wont they all uniformly raise rent, because they are all uniformly having their taxes increased?

      This is the argument again Georgism I have the hardest time countering.

      1. epistasis · · focus · HN ↗
        Landlords tend to raise rent to the maximum value they can.

        If they could raise rents, why haven't they already?

        And if their costs go up and they can't make ends meet, they will sell the property, possibly at a loss, and the lower value will lower taxes.

        But this won't happen, because the landlord's taxes won't rise. They'll almost certainly fall, as shown in the abundant data. And if for some reason the landlord's property tax does rise, it's because it's a ridiculously underused parcel in an area of really really high value, like a duplex next to 10+ story buildings. Which means it may be best to let 100-300 people use that parcel rather than ~10.

        The LVT shifts tax burden away from homes and businesses and towards empty lots and parking lots.

        1. Buttons840 · · focus · HN ↗
          Thanks. I like this response. I might phrase it a little more verbosely: what forces currently limit rent prices, and will any of those forces be lessened if land value is taxed?
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