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I'm tired of being on the network

144 points · 160 comments · sagacity

  1. cjpearson · · focus · HN ↗
    The emotions are relatable, but the examples are strange and don't back up his argument. It is true that there are many situations in modern life where a smartphone has become effectively mandatory.

    But Ali Express is not one of those. It's very feasible to delete the app, or at least turn off the notifications. The quality of TV writing may have taken a nosedive but nobody is forcing you to watch TikTok Empire. If you long for the golden age of television, you can find disc versions of The Wire, Mad Men, The Sopranos etc. Often they're free to borrow at your local library. The App Store is indeed garbage, but I open it a handful of times per year and probably spend less than a minute to search for the app I want and install it.

    The argument about losing control to devices would be much more effective if the examples weren't mainly cases where the user clearly has control.

    1. dwedge · · focus · HN ↗
      I don't think you can track a package now without the app on aliexpress. It might be another website but expect it to become more common
      1. pc86 · · focus · HN ↗
        I find it hard to believe that all but a very, very narrow segment of society can't go 3 or 4 days without tracking a package?
        1. SkyeCA · · focus · HN ↗
          In a world where a random crackhead is all too happy to steal literally any box placed in your mail box or on by your door it can be quite useful to know exactly when the box shows up, or is at least expected to show up.
          1. bigstrat2003 · · focus · HN ↗
            Most of us don't have to worry about random crackheads stealing packages from our mailboxes or doorsteps, so I think the parent's stipulation of a narrow segment of society holds.
            1. SkyeCA · · focus · HN ↗
              > Most of us don't have to worry about random crackheads stealing packages from our mailboxes or doorsteps

              Well of course, most of HN is extremely privileged and thus isolated from such problems. I wouldn't expect the average tech worker in a gated community or access controlled apartment complex to get it.

              1. nvme0n1p1 · · focus · HN ↗
                It's not a problem for 99% of the country. No "crackhead" is going door to door between cornfields with a mile between houses, scoping out everyone's porches daily. I'm sorry you're having those problems, but the world is a big place, don't assume everyone lives the same life as you.

                Even for the narrow segment of society in that situation, you're not required to give your money to Apple and then stay home 24/7 to immediately scoop up your packages. You could get a lockbox too, and guess what, they're cheaper than phones.

                1. SkyeCA · · focus · HN ↗
                  You have no idea how common parcel theft is, do you?

                  > going door to door between cornfields with a mile between houses

                  That's not the type of situation most people live in.

                  >don't assume everyone lives the same life as you

                  Likewise.

                  1. pc86 · · focus · HN ↗
                    Is it your contention that most people in the country constantly deal with drug addicts stealing their packages? Because it's not true.
                    1. nvme0n1p1 · · focus · HN ↗
                      It certainly does seem like he has a very specific axe to grind
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