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1. Havoc · 1790342300 · focus · HN ↗

   Sad that they feel this is necessary.

   Also feels like something that could be life ruining if someone innocent finds themselves on the list by mistake/fluke. This is presumably crowdsourced which is not bulletproof

   1. add-sub-mul-div · 1790343177 · focus · HN ↗

      Interesting that every instance of sexual assault is preemptively doubted by default, whereas that's not a primary part of the conversation for accusations of other crimes like arson, theft, embezzlement, etc. False accusations of any crime could hurt the accused, that's more or less an unavoidable tautology of the legal system. There's just one kind of crime where public conversation obsesses about that, though.

      1. KaiserPro · 1790348413 · focus · HN ↗

         Its a societal thing.

         Embezzling is universally bad, and can be proven with "objects" ie transaction and contracts and the like.

         the pernicious problem with sexual assault is that first you need to prove the assault happened, which is hard, because its often in private with no witnesses.

         Second you have to prove consent.

         worse consent can be withdrawn, especially if things go too far or violent. so it might appear to witnesses that it look ok when they saw them.

         Finally the elephant in the room. There is a taboo around non straight male sexuality which varies by region. Its very easy to paint the cliamant as someone with loose sexual morals, filled with guilt/loathing lashing out to smear an innocent party.

         The problem for the victims is that agreeing to sex is vaguely taboo for non-straight men to do. Therefore they are at fault.

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