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PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock

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  1. londons_explore · · focus · HN ↗
    I want these things to implement peer to peer caching, so that when 10 people are watching the same video, only one downloads from youtubes own servers.

    Then it's just a matter of letting people add their own videos directly to the service and it can become fully independent of YouTube.

    1. t2r3121 · · focus · HN ↗
      Peer to peer died because (1) a lot of the world, especially outside the US, has terrible upload/bandwidth, (2) HTTPS CDNs got _really_ cheap, far cheaper that p2p technologies like BitTorrent+WebSeed.

      There are a minority of users who care about being able to host videos that violate YouTube/TikTok/Instagram policies. Unfortunately, a significant part of that minority is working with infringing or illegal content, which both prevents ad networks from working with you and attracts attention from law enforcement.

      1. spixy · · focus · HN ↗
        Are you saying that p2p was fine in 2000s, but in 2020s with 10 times faster upload, it is suddenly not fine?

        I even got 100 times faster upload than 20 years ago...

        1. ranger_danger · · focus · HN ↗
          Yes, because the amount of pirated content floating around was not 1/100th the amount that is out there now, and obtaining content is easier than ever. Especially when you have a sanctioned "library" that hosts it all for you for free.
        2. t2r3121 · · focus · HN ↗
          1. The audience changed. Billions of people came online in the 2010s on smartphones, streaming works better for them.

          2. For most people bandwidth did not increase at the same rate as video file sizes during that period, streaming could do smart things like serve transcoded media sized to fit your screen and internet connection. It's only recently with HEVC and AV1 that video file sizes have caught up.

          3. Streaming can be easily monetized, p2p generally cannot.

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