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1. londons_explore · 1790454926 · focus · HN ↗

   I want these things to implement peer to peer caching, so that when 10 people are watching the same video, only one downloads from youtubes own servers.

   Then it's just a matter of letting people add their own videos directly to the service and it can become fully independent of YouTube.

   1. MisterMunchkin · 1790455378 · focus · HN ↗

      The problem with P2P video is that it's expensive to host and most of the people using it are going to use it for child abuse. It makes it not realistic.

      1. kitchi · 1790455743 · focus · HN ↗

         > most of the people using it are going to use it for child abuse.

         This is deeply unsubstantiated and does not help contribute to a constructive debate. Please consider thinking more carefully.

         1. api · 1790455976 · focus · HN ↗

            “Most” is hyperbolic but it’s a real problem in any system designed for peer to peer hosting or sharing.

            If the system is truly distributed it means you might not be able to participate without hosting or transmitting CSAM.

            It’s also been used as a deliberate attack, which is known as “pissing in the pool.” Flood the system with CSAM and copyright infringement.

            1. choo-t · 1790457044 · focus · HN ↗

               Most P2P video system make you seed only the video you started watching, thus making the point about transmitting csam moot.

               1. dotancohen · 1790462519 · focus · HN ↗

                  If I search for The Best of Both Worlds but open the video to find it's csam and not st:tng then I've unwittingly started watching, and thus potentially seeding, the csam.

                  1. Dylan16807 · 1790484512 · focus · HN ↗

                     That's pretty unlikely. P2P can have moderation systems. Also that can be solved by only seeding videos you kept watching.

                     1. dotancohen · 1790512161 · focus · HN ↗

                        Is that actually done in practice?

                        1. Dylan16807 · 1790521085 · focus · HN ↗

                           There's no popular peer to peer video system in the first place so uh not yet?

                           Peertube has moderation.

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