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PipePipe: NewPipe hard fork implementing SponsorBlock

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  1. londons_explore · · focus · HN ↗
    I want these things to implement peer to peer caching, so that when 10 people are watching the same video, only one downloads from youtubes own servers.

    Then it's just a matter of letting people add their own videos directly to the service and it can become fully independent of YouTube.

    1. MisterMunchkin · · focus · HN ↗
      The problem with P2P video is that it's expensive to host and most of the people using it are going to use it for child abuse. It makes it not realistic.
      1. kitchi · · focus · HN ↗
        > most of the people using it are going to use it for child abuse.

        This is deeply unsubstantiated and does not help contribute to a constructive debate. Please consider thinking more carefully.

        1. api · · focus · HN ↗
          “Most” is hyperbolic but it’s a real problem in any system designed for peer to peer hosting or sharing.

          If the system is truly distributed it means you might not be able to participate without hosting or transmitting CSAM.

          It’s also been used as a deliberate attack, which is known as “pissing in the pool.” Flood the system with CSAM and copyright infringement.

          1. thisislife2 · · focus · HN ↗
            > If the system is truly distributed it means you might not be able to participate without hosting or transmitting CSAM.

            Depends on the P2P architecture. With something like bittorrent / webtorrent you will be distributing CSAM only if you download it yourself first. Otherwise there is no way for any CSAM content to appear on your device. The fear that an algorithm may spread CSAM on the network by making you view one accidentally is a legitimate concern though.

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