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The Mafia may be keeping fentanyl out of Italy

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  1. mexicocitinluez · · focus · HN ↗
    The Godfather overly romanticized the mafia and made them out to be "violent but in a principled way" people and nothing could be further from the truth.

    It's complete fantasy that the mafia didn't deal hard drugs.

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    Orson Welles said it best:

    &quot;&#x27;The Godfather&#x27; was the glorification of a bunch of bums who never existed.&quot;

    1. TeMPOraL · · focus · HN ↗
      Well, I don&#x27;t buy the &quot;principled&quot; part either, not at scale.

      But it is organized, and there&#x27;s not that much fundamental difference between corporations and criminal enterprises, not in the ways they are run. The details boil down to different trade-offs taken wrt. risk vs. reward related to staying on the good side of the law. A lot of the violence (particularly the &quot;principled&quot;-looking one) seems to stem from the fact that a criminal org needs to built its own layer of coordination and enforcement, since by definition it cannot rely on public services of law enforcement and the legal system.

      1. mexicocitinluez · · focus · HN ↗
        There is no need to stay &quot;on the good side of the law.&quot; They pay off cops. They pay off the judges.

        If they can kill with impunity they can certainly do the same with drugs.

        Large-scale crack cocaine gangs existed too with substantial levels of organization but they still sell crack.

        They&#x27;re mostly unintelligent thugs motivated by greed. And I think the &quot;Why would they kill their own customers?&quot; implies they think that far ahead. Which is probably true as well for most major corps. They&#x27;ll take short term profit over quite literally anything.

        1. RunSet · · focus · HN ↗
          &quot;Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders&#x27; equity, myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief...&quot;

          \- Alan Greenspan

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