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Topcoat is pushing the boundary of server applications with Rust

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  1. muglug · · focus · HN ↗
    > Rust is the best general-purpose language for the new world of AI-driven development.

    Funny, the Python guys say Python is the best general-purpose language for AI and the Go guys say Go is the best general-purpose language for AI etc etc

    1. binarin · · focus · HN ↗
      It's the Python guys whom I totally don't understand - it's all fun and dandy until you try to maintain and cleanup a legacy codebase of tens of millions lines of code in any dynamic language :)

      With or without AI - doesn't matter. Only at that point you gain understanding of the limitations both of LLMs and of dynamic languages.

      edit: Forgot about "Nightmare" difficulty - try enjoying dynamic languages and LLMs when your legacy codebase is earning tens of thousands $ per second.

      1. orf · · focus · HN ↗
        > your legacy codebase is earning tens of thousands $ per second.

        Your legacy codebase generates ~300 billion a year?

        1. binarin · · focus · HN ↗
          Okay - not earning, but processing. Adjust the figure a bit for varying traffic patterns during week and seasonality, and it'll be kinda like that.
      2. infamia · · focus · HN ↗
        Unless you're doing something really dynamic, I don't really understand this position and would like to learn more. for most cases gradual typing is a great option that can be done incrementally in Python (two things even cheap agents are really good at).
        1. binarin · · focus · HN ↗
          You can't forbid people doing something "really dynamic". And in a sufficiently big system, over long period of time, this stuff will accumulate - 100%. Then you'll get to a point where answering questions like "is this piece of code still alive" with enough confidence is almost impossible.

          The question is where the "enough confidence" border lies - and in the worse case the only way to do some reliable investigatios would be printf debugging or its alikes.

          1. infamia · · focus · HN ↗
            It sounds like your app is using a lot of dynamic techniques like meta-programming? If so, that makes a lot of sense. Most of the apps I've seen use very little use of meta-programming and friends and incremental typing worked rather well.
      3. gantamk · · focus · HN ↗

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