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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

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  1. ricardobeat · · focus · HN ↗
    A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

    1. gagik_co · · focus · HN ↗
      It’d make the most sense for the Dutch government (or DAWO) to have their own Forgejo instance if the goal is data sovereignty.

      edit: looks like this was originally the case and then they moved?

      1. utopiah · · focus · HN ↗
        clearly shows the need for federated forges, where you get to decide on your own rules but you still benefit from interacting with a broader set of collaborators.
        1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
          Yeah, waiting for this too, feels like the final piece of the puzzle. Tracking issue from Codeberg + more general information about the effort around the the ecosystem:

          - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;forgejo&#x2F;forgejo&#x2F;issues&#x2F;59" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;forgejo&#x2F;forgejo&#x2F;issues&#x2F;59 (&quot;[FEAT] implement federation&quot;)

          - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forgefed.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;forgefed.org&#x2F;

          1. xvilka · · focus · HN ↗
            Given how slowly it progresses in Forgejo, there are better alternatives - Radicle[1] (full decentralization, not a federation) and Tangled[2] (federation).

            [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radicle.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;radicle.dev&#x2F;

            [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tangled.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tangled.org&#x2F;

            1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
              Man I was so excited about Tangled, until they announced they sought and got VC investments, which makes it not even worth looking into for long-term projects. I still wish them luck and hope they&#x27;ll be the lonely 0.1% that can resist enshittification even during pressure from investors, but realistically my hope is fairly close to the bottom.

              Radicle seems better in that regards, but instead is on top of their own cryptocurrency, which comes with its own issues.

              Personally my best hope is still &quot;real&quot; federation across centralized services, ala ForgeFed, but ideally we can make all these approaches interoperate in the future, that would be really awesome.

              1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
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                1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
                  Personally I don&#x27;t find the incentives of the only developer team working on something to be irrelevant to me as a user, if I&#x27;m looking for a long-term solution. Self-hosting&#x2F;on-prem still seems like the only sensible solution here.

                  I think the notion persists because they are seemingly still using a DAO as the governance structure, so the organization sits on top of a cryptocurrency (is the idea of DAOs at least, in practice it isn&#x27;t always so).

                  1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
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