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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

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  1. ricardobeat · · focus · HN ↗
    A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

    1. gagik_co · · focus · HN ↗
      It’d make the most sense for the Dutch government (or DAWO) to have their own Forgejo instance if the goal is data sovereignty.

      edit: looks like this was originally the case and then they moved?

      1. utopiah · · focus · HN ↗
        clearly shows the need for federated forges, where you get to decide on your own rules but you still benefit from interacting with a broader set of collaborators.
        1. amiga386 · · focus · HN ↗
          That&#x27;s likely to end up Balkanized like the fediverse, where every instance has a list of other instances they refuse to federate with, often because politics or petty drama. Though to be fair to the fediverse, sometimes it&#x27;s because those other instances are full of child porn and most people just don&#x27;t want to see that.

          It amuses me that Mastodon Central uses corpo-friendly labels for the sites they won&#x27;t federate with, e.g. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mastodon.social&#x2F;about" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mastodon.social&#x2F;about)

              tsundere.love   Suspended (Hate speech)
              you**.**ve      Suspended (Inappropriate content)
          
          Whereas the more free-wheeling sites, like the ones Mastodon Central blocks, tell it exactly how it is: (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tsundere.love&#x2F;about" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tsundere.love&#x2F;about)

              nadeko.pw      CP
              mk.fedcast.ch  Spam
              youjo.love     hosts at least one admitted pedo
          1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
            If you want to follow some CP poster on nadeko.pw then you can ask your admin on tsundere.love to unblock it and he will probably just ban you for admitting you like CP.

            Where did we get this idea that federated instances should never block anything? Even warez sites have rules.

            1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
              Why should a fallible, biased human “admin” be able to block an individual from communicating with another individual or group of individuals? This just creates weird social silos and echo chambers. It’s made worse because the people who choose to be jannies are often deeply broken people.

              The Fediverse has the whole model backwards as a result of its design. Either individuals need to run their own instances, or identity needs to be completely ephemeral and flow through many servers as it does in Nostr. A Nostr admin can choose not to host data from a given identity, they could even use an identity whitelist, but users normally subscribe to multiple relays. In the end, the data gets through, while the relay admin can keep their own hands clean if they have a problem with the data.

              Note that having this freedom does not preclude you from voluntarily signing up for blocklists. But this is an active choice, and it can’t be suddenly imposed on a set of users.

              1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
                Do you have an email account without a spam filter?
                1. iamnothere · · focus · HN ↗
                  I have one with a spam filter that I control myself, not some BS like GMail who wants to decide for me. It’s well-tuned at this point and hasn’t given me problems.

                  If I want to, I can opt in to any number of spam blocklists. That’s kind of the point—it’s opt in.

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