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Dutch governments builds alternative for Microsoft based on NixOS

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  1. ricardobeat · · focus · HN ↗
    A note to the developers in the project, if anyone is reading: your repositories are in violation of the new Codeberg policy that forbids AI-generated code [1].

    [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-llms.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.codeberg.org&#x2F;protecting-our-floss-commons-from-...

    1. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
      Did you actually read through that post you linked? You realize not every project that was ever touched by a LLM is being thrown off? Read the &quot;Some early, but informal guidelines&quot; particularly, as you&#x27;ve seemingly missed that.

      They&#x27;re targeting slop and essentially spam, not everything that could possibly have been built by LLMs.

      1. wafflemaker · · focus · HN ↗
        Not OP, but I stand corrected. Thought it was 100% no generated code. Now I know better, thanks! Looks like codeberg aren&#x27;t as mad as I thought.
        1. mitxela · · focus · HN ↗
          In the future, consider reading a policy before complaining about it.
      2. ricardobeat · · focus · HN ↗
        Quoting from the post:

            &gt; If you see yourself on this list, you don&#x27;t need to move right away, but
            there might be other places that better fit your needs:
        
            - Projects written and maintained with heavy use of LLMs
        
        All of the commits I browsed here seem to be LLM-assisted, so these projects are in this category. The policy being fuzzy is in itself a problem - &quot;likely to be tolerated&quot; is not a great policy to have your entire government depend on.

        Personally, the refusal on &quot;Projects heavily tied to the LLM ecosystem, e.g. LLM-written tools to ease LLM usage&quot; is enough reason, as that&#x27;s a good chunk of what I&#x27;ve been working on.

        1. rhamzeh · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; &quot;enough reason for me to move out&quot;

          And that&#x27;s not a bad thing. That&#x27;s why they are communicating, so if you feel that is you and you&#x27;re uncomfortable about it, you can move out and it&#x27;s a win win.

          Not everything should service all of us, especially not the smaller services. It&#x27;s OK for places to have their own rules and them being upfront about this is a *good* thing.

        2. embedding-shape · · focus · HN ↗
          &gt; The policy being fuzzy is in itself a problem

          No, the policy being fuzzy is a feature, because they&#x27;re not 100% against all LLM usage, they&#x27;re against slop and AI-spam, which is what they&#x27;re trying to combat.

          Laws are fuzzy, and we&#x27;re doing mostly fine with this, of course there are edge-cases. But that&#x27;s exactly why laws are fuzzy in the first place.

          If you have a &quot;automated software factory&quot; or whatever the vibe-coders are up to today, then yes, Codeberg is probably not for you. But if you sit with a agent TUI in one tab, review things closely and don&#x27;t just &quot;throw code over the wall&quot; without reviewing it, you have nothing to worry about with hosting code on Codeberg.

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