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263 points · 327 comments · Murmuring9087

  1. simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
    What’s interesting is that there are two types of doomers. Those who are scared about the capability of AI (like the author) and others like Zitron who think AI is hype and there are no capabilities. Lot of discussions get muddled because of this confusion between the type of doomers.
    1. defrost · · focus · HN ↗
      > Those who are scared about the capability of AI (like the author)

      Did they say that? I read they didn't like the pace of progression- that's a complaint about rushing ever faster into something not yet really thought out in terms of consequences and how it integrates with humans.

      1. simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
        > I’m confident that AI capability will continue to keep increasing steadily as long as we keep working on it. I wish that AI would hit some kind of plateau, or that we would identify important human cognitive abilities that AI will never replicate without a paradigm shift, but I don’t expect those wishes to come true
        1. defrost · · focus · HN ↗
          I'm not seeing "scared" - what prompted you to use the word "scared" ?
          1. simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
            > I think the existential risks many people are warning about deserve to be taken seriously

            Dude, if some one is telling you that

            1. it is getting better in capability and they want it to stop

            2. literal existential risks of humanity due to AI deserve to be taken seriously

            3. they have left their job because of it

            its obvious that they are scared of it, no? How else do they feel about it lol? Happy? Neutral?

    2. jsnell · · focus · HN ↗
      The latter are not doomers at all, that's just a misuse of the term.

      A year ago I would have described that group as AI skeptics or AI deniers depending on how charitable I felt on any given sany. At this point AI truthers seems more appropriate.

      1. simianwords · · focus · HN ↗
        There was a recent video doing rounds in twitter. An eclectic group of doomers and truthers who found an unusual common ground on hating on AI.

        Nate Soares (doomer high priest who has called for pause before LLMs were a thing) was explaining why AI should be stopped due to x-risks. Ed zitron (truther extraordinaire) asks him what has he done to stop it which is funny when Nate spent big part of his life on this mission.

        It was strange watching two people who have completely different ideas on AI speaking on a common ground

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