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Goodbye Google

263 points · 327 comments · Murmuring9087

  1. dao- · · focus · HN ↗
    > I definitely want my future work to be unambiguously pro-human.

    Stay away from the lucrative then? Why did you ever think it was a good idea to start at Google? I don't think Jesus would have approved.

    1. roca · · focus · HN ↗
      I didn't, and still don't, think Google was unambiguously good or evil. They did dirty stuff with Chrome, they do addiction optimization, but they also provide great free services, fight endless wars against spammers, and provide reliable secure infrastructure to a lot of other people, and lots of other good things. I would never have joined the Chrome team, or worked on addictiveness, but I felt fine about working on optimization projects to make Google more efficient, which is basically what I did for my first few years there.

      It's pretty hard to live in the world and be completely disconnected from anything unethical. Jesus doesn't seem to demand that (e.g. he didn't tell centurions to leave the Roman army).

      1. dao- · · focus · HN ↗
        > They did dirty stuff with Chrome, they do addiction optimization, but they also provide great free services, fight endless wars against spammers, and provide reliable secure infrastructure to a lot of other people, and lots of other good things.

        As mconnor liked to say, there is no free lunch. :)

        > I would never have joined the Chrome team, or worked on addictiveness, but I felt fine about working on optimization projects to make Google more efficient, which is basically what I did for my first few years there.

        Ultimately, I don't think you can divide your niche from the corporation's primary goals (especially if you think it was your duty to be a good employee), so I disagree with your rationalization but kudos for at least having a moral compass and trying not to lose sight of it.

        > It's pretty hard to live in the world and be completely disconnected from anything unethical.

        Sure, but I don't think that should be an excuse for being fairly well connected.

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