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Plan mode is dead

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  1. bcherny · · focus · HN ↗
    [I work on Claude Code] I broadly agree with the author’s point: plan mode was useful, and is no longer useful.

    In Claude Code, all plan mode does is add a little reminder to every user message along the lines of “you’re in plan mode, please don’t code yet”. It’s something I came up with late on a Sunday night many months ago, when I got tired of asking Claude to plan with me first before coding in each new session. Something people might not realize is plan mode has always been a prompt — it has never changed the toolset because doing so would break the prompt cache, and so would be expensive for users.

    This worked well for a while, until a few months ago, using early versions of Fable, I realized that I wasn’t using plan mode anymore because the model just got it, and because for the increasingly complex work I asked the model to do, planning had become interactive and iterative. With Opus 5.5, I feel Opus has gotten to that point too.

    For codebase understanding, I sometimes ask Claude to generate an artifact that explains some aspect of its changes. For complex diffs to core parts of the system, I will often ask it to make diagrams or even interactive demos so I can better understand the change and alternatives considered. I don’t do this very often, but it’s a useful way to explain code when you need it. I ask Claude to attach these artifacts to its PRs also, so others can understand and future Claudes have the context.

    1. gchamonlive · · focus · HN ↗
      > plan mode was useful, and is no longer useful.

      > In Claude Code, all plan mode does is add a little reminder to every user message along the lines of “you’re in plan mode, please don’t code yet"

      Can't help but think if plan mode isn't useful as you say because it's implementation is lacking in claude code, hypothetically speaking.

      What I can say is that with other harnesses plan mode helps stabilize my workflows. Actually synthesizing code is only part of the process, lots involved in taking a work-item to production end-to-end and plan mode helps give this flow structure. More than that it's an opportunity to regroup before committing to changes. It slows down the process to a rythim that's sustainable and smooth, which ends up speeding up the process.

      So if plan mode in claude was designed to speed up code churn, while oh my pi for instance designed plan mode to be strategic, that might account for the different perceptions here.

      And it's not to say you should force yourself to use it, but if you are planning on cutting this mode off the loop just beware of the possible side effects.

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