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What About Rails?

334 points · 236 comments · jrochkind1

potato-peeler · 1790323855 · focus · HN ↗
From the talk it’s clear, Rails needs to be forked.
1. homarp · 1790327839 · focus · HN ↗
  isn't <a href="https://mosscap.dev/" rel="nofollow">https://mosscap.dev/ a fork?
  1. boxed · 1790343981 · focus · HN ↗
    Heh. It's always funny how people like that don't see their irony of being "inclusive" of "all backgrounds" just after having made a long list of people who they will throw out immediately for vague transgressions that are based on rumors and innuendo.
    pebble · 1790357039 · focus · HN ↗
    List of people thrown out as per the linked site: > nazis, transphobes, racists, or any kind of bigotry
    Which part is the vague transgression?
    smithcoin · 1790369289 · focus · HN ↗
    because once you attempt to start to apply any label it becomes more and more vague. If I am a black man from South Africa who hates white people for perpetuating the Apartheid, am I welcome or am I a racist? If I am a man who's own father transitioned to being a woman and I no longer feel comfortable around trans-people because I lost my 'father figure', am I a transphobe or am I welcome? I understand these are deliberately obtuse examples. I bring them up because I never know where on the spectrum the line is drawn for these labels yet people will gladly declare somebody a 'nazi' because their dad watches Fox News. Even asking the question "when does somebody on the right go far enough to be considered a fascist?" often is met with the retort "defending nazis makes you a nazi".
    pebble · 1790370278 · focus · HN ↗
    I'd be curious to know your answers to these because they seem rather obvious to me..
    Just because some people calling someone a nazi are wrong doesn't mean everyone calling someone a nazi is wrong.
    smithcoin · 1790371315 · focus · HN ↗
    We both know what the 'answer' is because we are normal people who understand nuance - a skill many people have lost as they have come to have their ideals defined by their identity, not the other way around.
    > Just because some people calling someone a nazi are wrong doesn't mean everyone calling someone a nazi is wrong.
    Sometimes they aren't just wrong, they are the loudest.
    pebble · 1790374310 · focus · HN ↗
    From this reply your answer could still be read either ways and that someone is still a nazi regardless of how loud someone is.
    Those of the conservative persuasion love to use the loudness of some people to invalidate all condemnations of nazis, right or wrong.
    notourproblem · 1790388072 · focus · HN ↗
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