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What About Rails?

334 points · 236 comments · jrochkind1

  1. paultopia · · focus · HN ↗
    Two slightly disconnected thoughts:

    1. This is why BDFL culture in open source is bad. Because if the BDFL decides to go all in on some completely bizarre mess, all of a sudden there’s massive fork politics.

    2. Hey is the marquee product now?? Does anyone actually use Hey? I tried it for a year, and basically found I was paying for the privilege of having a slower, buggier, less feature-rich gmail that can’t even dent the have-a-paid-email-that-doesn’t-exploit-you market (Fastmail and Proton exist, yo).

    1. __float · · focus · HN ↗
      The only people I know still using Hey are doing so because there's no way to move your address elsewhere. It's a PITA to change your email everywhere (and some unfortunate place don't let you; e.g. email as the login and primary key)
      1. moojacob · · focus · HN ↗
        If you cancel, 37signals let you keep your hey.com address and auto forward mail to a new email address. :)
        1. Conlectus · · focus · HN ↗
          They also say that this is “just a courtesy” and not to rely on it.
    2. sick_of_slop · · focus · HN ↗

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    3. doodpants · · focus · HN ↗
      BDFL works great as long as the D remains B.
      1. _doctor_love · · focus · HN ↗
        When the B wants to F their D in your L, that's no good.
    4. mrsilencedogood · · focus · HN ↗
      I already migrated all of my projects off rails, moving to fastapi, due to a combination of DHH's political bs and Ruby's fumbling of progressive typing/type hints. I actually just completed the migration a couple weeks ago.

      I'm now doubly-glad since it seems like, indeed, the bdfl has lost both the plot and the B. The fact that Omarchy is also some weird corporate-sponsored AI-pilled linux reskin is further concerning.

      In retrospect, his jamming of things like thruster, hotwire, etc etc into the framework and then now basically abandoning them has me grateful I didn't adopt them, even though I thought they seemed pretty well-intended at the time.

      1. nop_slide · · focus · HN ↗
        Funny, I migrated my FastAPI project to Rails 2 years ago and couldn't be happier.
      2. stiltzkin · · focus · HN ↗

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    5. binwang · · focus · HN ↗
      > Does anyone actually use Hey?

      In the talk he said all Hey's traffic can be served on a Raspberry Pi. I think that pretty much answers your question.

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